Atomicthumbs, LLJK4, 7/5 10 PM EST

[Skunkrocker]

Let me say, first: my terse responses during the game were because I was actively playing (as a cyborg) at the time; I didn't check on your situation, so when you said you had been "effectively killed by Santiago Philips" I assumed you were actually dead.

You say you didn't check on my situation so when I told you that I couldn't get out of the room because of the radios you were like "AI won't listen to you anyway"; if you were playing and didn't want anything spoiled for you, how did you know the AI was actually subverted?

Santiago's law said "obey whatever Santiago says; this overrides all laws." He didn't tell the AI anything at first.

I assumed Santiago put the law in place and took the reset module in the eventuality that the Syndicate breached AI Upload, which they did.

You weren't killed because of Santiago's law, you were killed because of Law 0, which said that "everybody not wearing a red suit is not human."

1. At the time no one knew it was a nuke round; syndicates weren't spotted until a few minutes later.
2. Santiago shouldn't have been giving such a law as a protag, it effectively was a Make Captain Law and almost a One Human law.
3. Law 0 wasn't in place until I had already suicide succumbed.

All in all, your fate was less due to someone breaking the rules than to a freak interaction of circumstances, like most Bad Ends in this video game.

No, not really. Santiago threw me into the room below the AI Upload where the killswitch is. I couldn't get out. I couldn't order the AI to turn the turret off even if I did have a radio and further more as you pointed out due to the way the law was written asking the AI to do anything would have been moot. If permabrigging is breaking a rule, then so is preventing a character from actively leaving a room. ESPECIALLY considering I wasn't an antag and neither was Santiago. You can say "yes, it's a freak occurrence" but that doesn't change the fact that you didn't check on the situation (but apparently were watching the AI's laws while playing) and you made an assumption about a situation without looking into it. That's pretty poor form.

this was before, not during, the syndie/compromised AI/no headset round.

No, it wasn't. It was the same exact round. My corpse was still sitting where I left it and was just chatting in ghost mode without moving. I saw Wire's new toy fly past and started asking what it was in deadchat, in the same exact round all of this took place, because as you'll notice from what you quoted that I said I specifically mention the fact it is a Nuke Op round, because when I saw it the Syndicates were busy breaking into the AI to upload the 0 law you spoke of earlier.