Goonhub
06-04-2015, 04:17 PM
Hmm. Why not have all three, in terms of Robotics/Cloning/Frankestein?
By this, I mean you have it set out so that Robotics is guaranteed to give you certain kinds of bonuses, and certain negatives. The bonuses of robitcs being, as BaneOfGigyas said -
+ Robustness
+ Utility
+ AI Positives
- AI Limitations
- Limited (On the whole)
- Versatility
I have paraphrased that an awful lot. Cloning is just a direct second chance, so why not have Frankensteining as a bonus to other things? For example -
+ They're already dead, so Toxin and O2 resistance
- They're already dead, so less maximum health, and they get blown apart more easily
+They're functioning off of electricity, so more of an ability to shrug off stuns from tasers/stun batons
- They're functioning off a lot of electricity, so a big surge like an APC/Door shocking might just outright kill them.
+ They're dead, and so can't bleed.
- They're dead, and sure as hell non human. They don't get protected by normal AI laws, and the AI doesn't have to listen to them.
The availability of ways of revival isn't a huge issue in my mind, as if there was no cloning then people would just be more on the ball when it comes to making borgs on the whole. At least for no other reason than there's going to be more available corpses for borging. If there was a third option added, somewhere near Pathology or the monkey pen as it is more experimental, then that could allow for more variety on reanimation. Nuke Ops going to town and blowing up large holes? Get a load of Frankenstein Men to fight back. Ling running around turning everyone to husks? Borg time. Stock antag action? Good 'ole cloning.
That's not to say I don't think some changes should be made to clowning - Robotics has the limitations of having to get the materials and building it. Frankensteining could have the issue of needing a large charge from the engine (Although what with the power laser being a thing, hellburns are more common nowadays) and perhaps a concoction of chemicals as someone has already said (sorry I can't remember who it was).
Similarly cloning should have something, so why not make it like genetics? In order to successfully clone someone, you need to piece back together their DNA. If you want to half arse it, go ahead! You get a clone with a load of bad mutations, which might potentially just instagib them on the way out. Or you'll have a blind mute deaf swedish man who hates you from being so lazy, and bringing him into this horrific existence. Then at least you don't have the issue of a paywall, and Geneticists might be a bit more willing to clone people. Hell, maybe they might find beneficial mutations for their own research by piecing together someone else's DNA. Maybe each bad gene they remove from the person being cloned adds another mutation to their researched mutations.
By this, I mean you have it set out so that Robotics is guaranteed to give you certain kinds of bonuses, and certain negatives. The bonuses of robitcs being, as BaneOfGigyas said -
+ Robustness
+ Utility
+ AI Positives
- AI Limitations
- Limited (On the whole)
- Versatility
I have paraphrased that an awful lot. Cloning is just a direct second chance, so why not have Frankensteining as a bonus to other things? For example -
+ They're already dead, so Toxin and O2 resistance
- They're already dead, so less maximum health, and they get blown apart more easily
+They're functioning off of electricity, so more of an ability to shrug off stuns from tasers/stun batons
- They're functioning off a lot of electricity, so a big surge like an APC/Door shocking might just outright kill them.
+ They're dead, and so can't bleed.
- They're dead, and sure as hell non human. They don't get protected by normal AI laws, and the AI doesn't have to listen to them.
The availability of ways of revival isn't a huge issue in my mind, as if there was no cloning then people would just be more on the ball when it comes to making borgs on the whole. At least for no other reason than there's going to be more available corpses for borging. If there was a third option added, somewhere near Pathology or the monkey pen as it is more experimental, then that could allow for more variety on reanimation. Nuke Ops going to town and blowing up large holes? Get a load of Frankenstein Men to fight back. Ling running around turning everyone to husks? Borg time. Stock antag action? Good 'ole cloning.
That's not to say I don't think some changes should be made to clowning - Robotics has the limitations of having to get the materials and building it. Frankensteining could have the issue of needing a large charge from the engine (Although what with the power laser being a thing, hellburns are more common nowadays) and perhaps a concoction of chemicals as someone has already said (sorry I can't remember who it was).
Similarly cloning should have something, so why not make it like genetics? In order to successfully clone someone, you need to piece back together their DNA. If you want to half arse it, go ahead! You get a clone with a load of bad mutations, which might potentially just instagib them on the way out. Or you'll have a blind mute deaf swedish man who hates you from being so lazy, and bringing him into this horrific existence. Then at least you don't have the issue of a paywall, and Geneticists might be a bit more willing to clone people. Hell, maybe they might find beneficial mutations for their own research by piecing together someone else's DNA. Maybe each bad gene they remove from the person being cloned adds another mutation to their researched mutations.