04-03-2015, 02:59 PM
Sundance Wrote::
I'm going to ground my points here:
1. I think the detective IS security. But he's as much security as the HoP is, he has a different role to play and this has been stated again and again. But I don't think the detective's job is to ACT security. His job is to investigate and to an extent spy on people. He is intelligence. And just like real detectives in real life, he's entitled to arrest someone, but the processing and punishment is in the hands of security whether that be the captain/sec or HoS. Maybe removing sec access is a step too far, but the point was that when a prisoner is in the hands of security, they are no longer in the hands of the detective, as ITS NOT HIS JOB. If a detective makes it his job, then that's fine, but he's in no way obliged to rescue sec if they are in the shit.
The HoP isn't security at all. His job is ID stuff and beyond the fact that this allows him to give himself sec access and pinch all the guns he's not sec. The detective's job is sec, it's distinct from but directly related to the job that Sec Officers do.
There's no reason to remove his sec access when he doesn't have Sec Equipment access. Removing his sec access just makes it harder to do his job, which involves working with Sec Officers if he's doing it properly.
The revolver is a useful item for self-defence, which he needs if he's doing his job properly because if he's doing his job properly he's probably going to run into someone who wants him dead. There is no reason to take away his ammo and make his revolver ineffective. You've been a player long enough to remember this, Sundance: the detective's revolver used to be useless. It used to come with 2 speedloaders worth of ammo, and the lethals barely did any damage. I remember HoSing in that time period, and every single round the Detective would go to the HoP, get sec equipment access, and grab a taser. Every round. He was basically a Sec officer with a funny hat.
Making the Detective's unique weapon worse is not the way to make him more distinct from Sec, it's a way to make him bum guns off of Sec. You're trying to solve a problem that basically doesn't exist by reintroducing a problem that was already fixed.
And besides holy shit how is he still shooting at you 21 shots later? A gross advantage? What the fuck? Were you completely unarmed and trapped behind a table or some shit? Disarm him! Stun him! The only way he should be able to do that is if you're cuffed to a chair and he's using you for target practice.