Detectives, their gun, and supercopping.

[Walrus]

Once again, pulling something out of your ass does not constitute as truth.

vOv except this is how it's always been, so it's not being pulled out of my ass. countless times, admins and coders and players alike have all acknowledged detective as a separate entity from security; security being the security officers and HoS.

You're pulling it out of your ass, sorry. "That's how it is" does not constitute as the truth either. Try again next time, thanks for playing etc.

There's security (jobs associated with the law) and there's security (jobs associated with arresting people and enforcing the law, I.e officers and the HoS), man.

No, there's security (Sec officer, Detective, HoS), man. Just because you say it's true doesn't mean that it's true.

the Lawyer is part of the "security" section of the wiki but he's not "security" as we are using it. he's not a part of the team, he's not supposed to go around enforcing the law, and even though he's got access to the area and used to have an office in direct proximity to the main sec lounge, he's not security.

The lawyer is not part of the "security" section of the wiki and you (again) are pulling this out of your ass.

the detective is a gimmick job fit investigating crimes, the Lawyer was a gimmick job for representing criminals in court. this have them red ids and nice pdas and security headsets and an office and access to the cells, and this got them sorted under the "security" tab on the wiki, but remember that the wiki is updated and maintained by players, not the admins, and it's not uncommon for it to be wrong or for it to represent minority opinion.

So you (falsely) quote the wiki the paragraph before to try and prove your point and now you're throwing it out the window in regards to my proof because it's unreliable? You're not very good at this, are you?

that your constant "pulling out of ass" accusations and flippant attitude are unwarranted.

No they are not. I can make these accusations because I have proof, while you are simply saying "The detective isn't sec because I/He/She/They say so." Stop pulling things out of your ass.

but you should recognize that you're the minority opinion here (and either way, this IS a role play centric job and this IS both opinionj and

Being in the "minority" opinion when the opposing side is a whopping two people in this thread. Both of them clearly want the detective out of security, so they jump the gun and come to the incorrect conclusion that he wasn't/isn't security in the first place in an attempt to validate their argument. It isn't true just because you say it's true. Saying that it's the majority opinion that the detective isn't sec doesn't make it true, nor does it make the minority opinion any less true.

I'm sorry this is so hard for you to understand.