Detectives, their gun, and supercopping.

[UrsulaMejor]

Once again, pulling something out of your ass does not constitute as truth.

vOv except this is how it's always been, so it's not being pulled out of my ass. countless times, admins and coders and players alike have all acknowledged detective as a separate entity from security; security being the security officers and HoS.

There's security (jobs associated with the law) and there's security (jobs associated with arresting people and enforcing the law, I.e officers and the HoS), man. by the wiki definition, the Lawyer was also part of the first class called "security". are you saying they were also part of the second class? of course not. the Lawyer is part of the "security" section of the wiki but he's not "security" as we are using it. he's not a part of the team, he's not supposed to go around enforcing the law, and even though he's got access to the area and used to have an office in direct proximity to the main sec lounge, he's not security.

what I'm saying is that the detective is as much security, as we are using the term in this thread, as the Lawyer was. the detective is a gimmick job fit investigating crimes, the Lawyer was a gimmick job for representing criminals in court. this have them red ids and nice pdas and security headsets and an office and access to the cells, and this got them sorted under the "security" tab on the wiki, but remember that the wiki is updated and maintained by players, not the admins, and it's not uncommon for it to be wrong or for it to represent minority opinion.

if you want to foreplay the detective as part of the sec team proper, that's your prerogative. but you should recognize that you're the minority opinion here (and either way, this IS a role play centric job and this IS both opinionj and that your constant "pulling out of ass" accusations and flippant attitude are unwarranted.