03-28-2015, 01:17 PM
Sundance Wrote:The cloak IS bad - because now all it does it make you invisible, and invisibility is, was, and always will be bad. It's better than the chameleon projector and portable cloaking field, but nobody complains about those because they're expected to be bad, because they've always been bad. The only reason people complain about the cloak is because it used to make you invincible (with some exceptions), not just invisible. Now, instead of being a god-mode with one absolute counter item and a couple of highly situational defensive strategies only slightly worse than "hide in a locker", it's a mere invisibility device. Of course nobody's got anything good to say about it - because it used to be one of the best traitor items in the game, which allowed you to operate with total impunity as long as you'd already taken care of the detective and HoS, and now it's not. It's still not really all that bad, but the only reason anybody ever used it was for the OP aspect of it. Now that that's gone, it's a lot less used because being invisible isn't really all that useful.Paineframe Wrote:The cloak is still better than the chameleon projector, and nobody complains about how that's "shit" now. I feel like this is all just a matter of people whining that it isn't as good as it used to be and refusing to use it on principle, just like they did with mediborgs for a while. Part of the problem, of course, is that being invisible is just not useful and has never been useful. The only draw of the cloaker has always been the ability to murder people while invisible soyou can rampage with impunity and no one can fight back. Without that going for it, invisibility just sucks in general.
Well ok, give me a shred of evidence where people have said the cloak is OK then? Look outside this thread. Use the search function and type cloak and you'll find tepid responses on how it could be improved upon. There's whining, and then there's people actually pointing out flaws to the system, learn to distinguish.
Look i'm not saying the cloak is bad per se. But if people are going down the route of further nerfing it so that someone will be visible long enough to be spotted and shot at then it should be buffed in another manner, that's not unreasonable at all.
But so what? Is it a bad thing to be less useful? I'm sure people go for TK a lot less often now that you can't grab a camera monitor and murder the entire station with impunity; does that mean TK needs a buff?