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The Relationship Between Traitors and the HoS
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Ed Venture Wrote:My only issue with you that round was I saved you from being shot down and was in the process of arresting the person who tried to kill. Which you then get up and laser him to death causing him to explode. When I confronted you on this saying along the lines that it's no fun for everyone if you kill traitors this early in the round and that I had it handle by arresting him. Now the man was already cuffed and stunned so he was not a threat to any of us and even if he did have a Freedom implant I have enough of a brain to keep stunning a traitor to the brig. Your logic to outright kill the person came off to me as "Arresting traitors is boring just outright kill them". From other players to the wiki itself it/they say it's best to use the right amount of force that is needed and if you can take someone in a non lethal way then do it. The other two antags you killed I saw no issue with that was in self- defense. But from my point of view you seem way to trigger happy and ready to kill someone at any moment. I don't think security should kill a cuffed person even if they tried to kill you. I do apologize for calling you a try hard but the way you defended yourself really came off like you were a fun hating nerd.

In short, you killed a traitor who was already taken care of and arrested. Which is not shitty at all but there was hardly any reason to kill him in cold blood.

I want to quote one of the most important guidelines from the wiki when it comes to being a security officer.
Quote:Detain the suspect with minimum force.
Honestly I don't really think the circumstances of this round are very important, it's simply what prompted me to write this and this whole thing is honestly part of a much larger problem that exists in the perception of how a HoS should operate.
My reasoning behind killing the first dude was quite simple. The whole thing started with him running down the hallway, riot shotgun out (which i had given out to the crew to show how much faith i had in them.), he instantly runs up next to me and shoots me once (or twixe, i forgot) times, runs out of my line of sight, where you shoot him with your taser, after which he just slidesback into my line of sight. Now i was fairly pissed not only about the bleeding damage, the blatant breach of trust, shooting me with a weapon i had given him, but that he'd also ruined my Head of Security jumpsuit by getting blood all over it.
This combined with my previous experience (read: 3 years of security tomfoolery) that has taught me that jailing traitors who are running around with guns in the hallway shooting around wildly, rarely ends well. And while he MAY not have had a freedom implant, a derringer hidden in his top hat, a secret cloaking, mindslaved accomplice just waiting to break him out, or even a timed bomb hidden in his backpack you just never know.I don't doubt that aren't a bad security officer nor do i think you're unrobust, but i generally don't trust officers to actually make any competent decisions. ever. Then there is of course also the matter of transportation. Hauling a traitor from just north of the escape wing, all the way to security has plenty of obstacles that could easily knock him out of your hold and let him escape. All this combined made me reach the conclusion that it would be a trillion times easier to make sure none of my officers (or tbh, most importantly, me) die, because something went wrong trying to arrest him.

Also note: the guidelines for Security officers are completely irrelevant when it comes to the Head of Security. He is supposed to be making split-second decisions, and he is trusted to know when killing someone is appropriate. I made such a decision, and concluded that it wasn't a good situation for arresting the dude.
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