Goonhub
08-26-2014, 10:11 AM
I am somewhat reluctant to discuss such a topic because I feel like this is the exact reason why not everyone can and will be an admin : they are by nature chosen so that they are able to decide whether or not things break the rules, and by extension, if things are too creepy.
We have accepted this from the goonstation staff for all those years and everytime there was a disagreement either on the complaint or appeal section, it always ended up with the plaintiff being a weirdo who has no control of what he says and no idea why what he says might be disgusting to more sane people, and the staff being unanimous about the fact such things are not acceptable.
I'm obviously exaggerating a little bit, but you understand what I am trying to say.
But of course I understand the purpose for this thread and I suppose that admins getting feedback from the playerbase on how this should be handled cannot be a bad thing.
Anyways, as to what concerns my opinion about creepy stuff, hell it's indeed very important to consider context in every case; I will also concur with Spy_Guy that a "when in doubt, dont" mentality would solve many a problem in our community, the optimal state of mind probably being : "well I have this idea that might be fun, but I think it might be wrong to do, let's adminhelp and see what the staff has to say about it". The admin's guidelines might even stay in the dude's head and it's probable he wont do any future mistakes on the same subject.
Yet, the good majority of people who don't follow such mindsets end up being the same ones who do not even read the rules and who tend to ignore basic human interaction conventions, so it's a bit hard to rely on that.
Over the time, these people become experienced, lived through a handful of bans and should know better. So in the end, I am not so sure that this will help much because these offenders will still continue to ignore basic behavioral inhibitions and continue being weird creeps, whatever the acceptable level of creepiness may be; while people with the slightest bit of common sense will realize when they should question themselves about doing stuff. (syntax might be weird, forgive my belgian-ness)
Who knows, it might work.
Also I'm sorry for bashing whatever-fartman's-name-is, I understand why talking about him and not about what defines creepiness doesn't add anything useful to the thread.
We have accepted this from the goonstation staff for all those years and everytime there was a disagreement either on the complaint or appeal section, it always ended up with the plaintiff being a weirdo who has no control of what he says and no idea why what he says might be disgusting to more sane people, and the staff being unanimous about the fact such things are not acceptable.
I'm obviously exaggerating a little bit, but you understand what I am trying to say.
But of course I understand the purpose for this thread and I suppose that admins getting feedback from the playerbase on how this should be handled cannot be a bad thing.
Anyways, as to what concerns my opinion about creepy stuff, hell it's indeed very important to consider context in every case; I will also concur with Spy_Guy that a "when in doubt, dont" mentality would solve many a problem in our community, the optimal state of mind probably being : "well I have this idea that might be fun, but I think it might be wrong to do, let's adminhelp and see what the staff has to say about it". The admin's guidelines might even stay in the dude's head and it's probable he wont do any future mistakes on the same subject.
Yet, the good majority of people who don't follow such mindsets end up being the same ones who do not even read the rules and who tend to ignore basic human interaction conventions, so it's a bit hard to rely on that.
Over the time, these people become experienced, lived through a handful of bans and should know better. So in the end, I am not so sure that this will help much because these offenders will still continue to ignore basic behavioral inhibitions and continue being weird creeps, whatever the acceptable level of creepiness may be; while people with the slightest bit of common sense will realize when they should question themselves about doing stuff. (syntax might be weird, forgive my belgian-ness)
Who knows, it might work.
Also I'm sorry for bashing whatever-fartman's-name-is, I understand why talking about him and not about what defines creepiness doesn't add anything useful to the thread.