What is creepy?

[popecrunch]

Bigotry of any form isn't acceptable on the servers. There is no acceptable excuse for using homophobic, racist or sexist language. We don't care if you are gay, black, Latina/o, etc. in real life. D”on't use bigoted language, period. This also applies to names, including spoonerisms (e.g. "Digger Nick"). Creepiness is also unacceptable. This includes rape jokes, roleplaying sex, sexual harassment/assault or rape. If it involves your genitals, it doesn't belong here. There is absolutely no reason to use the word 'rape' on our servers, in any context, at all, forever. This is neither negotiable nor up for debate.
Don't import drama. What people do on the internet outside of SS13 is not the concern of any of us. We don't know, we don't care, we don't WANT to know. Harassing someone in-game, on the forums, or in IRC about things they do or say outside of it is terrible. If it didn't happen here, then it didn't happen as far as we're concerned.

What is clear here that homophobic, racist or sexual language IC/OOC is a no-no.
What isn't clear is about roleplaying nasty shit like torture, which isn't on the rules page whatsoever. There should be an extra set of rules underneath the above stating that while roleplaying is fine and emoting is fine, goonstation is a lighter-rp server and heavy RP that involves heavy meticulous emotes should be avoided, especially if it's particularly sadistic in nature.

So let's stick the bolded bit above in the rules page. Anyone else want to chime in? Agree / disagree? It still has the problem of being unspecific and nebulous, but I think that's just the nature of the beast because it's impossible to really nail down.

How would you like an admin to handle a case where Eddie points at something and says 'that's creepy' and Frances points at it and says 'that's totally not'?

there seems to be a toss-up here between taking each case individually and in-context or just listening to the most easily offended person, because we don't want to offend ANYONE.

it'd be really unfortunate to have to limit player interactions to counter-strike-in-space combat and stock emotes because anything more involved might be construed as "creepy".

Agreed. We don't need to babysit things to the point where a success state is LITERALLY NOBODY IS OFFENDED AT ALL, BY ANYTHING, EVER, but 'taking each case individually and in-context' has the problem of perpetual arguments over the definition of 'creepy'. I'd really, REALLY like the admins to do things that way, but I'd also really like the playerbase to have a chance to have a say in it.