What is creepy?

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Alice grabs ahold of Bill, straps him to a chair, monologues at them for a while about how they've just been kidnapped and nobody will ever see them again and really goes into it for a good long time and does some Reservoir Dogs shit like dancing around them a bunch, cutting them up a little, and lighting them on fire. That's sort of messed up! That's not okay. (Sidebar: It might or might not be okay if Alice is a traitor this round, but that would depend on the circumstances. Context is everything!) To me, that's not okay because that's a situation where Alice is forcing their control of Bill's ~game experience~. Granted, if Alice just straight up shot Bill in the hallway, that's still forcing their control of Bill's experience, but it would be PERFECTLY OKAY if Alice were a traitor that round. The difference is the time spent exerting that control, the context in which it was done, and the general 'feel' of the whole thing. This is pretty hard to verbalize, and I think that's where the bulk of the conflict comes from. (edit to add: the issue isn't with the kidnapping ITSELF, but when the kidnapper gets super duper into it and it gets into like hardcore torture stuff - yikes.)

This is too much of a grey area and shouldn't be enforced either way, if someone is a traitor and wants to murder their victims gruesomely oh well. Now if someone were to emote sexual things while doing this nope that's bad.