Goonhub
01-16-2026, 11:30 AM
Apart from my bias of loving the tension of playing with easy-to-lose gear, my main concern with this is the major nerf it would be to crew. This would buff security and gear-based antagonists, but it would nerf the average crewmember as well as ability based antagonists.
The drawback of gear including melee gear has always been that it is easy to lose, whether it be from shoving, slipping, tripping, ect. To counter this, a gear user would have to grow their skill of assessing a situation to know when they should or should not pull out the gear in question.
I am also concerned that this could affect the dynamics of fights involving arcfiends, vampires, and changelings; who sometimes rely on their special abilities to disarm via stun their gear-user opponents (security, captain). With the changes suggested by this post, security would just be frozen in place for a second or two and then could immediately resume beating the shit out of the antag they are fighting.
As for the specific antag gear items this buff would most likely be visible with (csaber, katana), i agree that it would for the average player help in some situations. There would still be major issues though:
Without this change (how the game currently is), average john space who buys a csaber might kill a guy in the hall and then (likely) lose it and die to two or three other guys in the hall.
With this change, john space would (probably) be successful in killing all three of the guys in the hall, and then, most likely be forced into trading clicks with a security officer who has a baton; and get KO'ed out of comission regardless of their success in the precursor fight.
As an alternative way to buff melee gear users, blocking with a high damage item (lets say greater than or equal to 10) could resist the stun from incoming chairflippers, instead disorienting the blocker and hurting the chairflipper in question. I think this would have a greater shot at nullifying the problem in question.
The drawback of gear including melee gear has always been that it is easy to lose, whether it be from shoving, slipping, tripping, ect. To counter this, a gear user would have to grow their skill of assessing a situation to know when they should or should not pull out the gear in question.
I am also concerned that this could affect the dynamics of fights involving arcfiends, vampires, and changelings; who sometimes rely on their special abilities to disarm via stun their gear-user opponents (security, captain). With the changes suggested by this post, security would just be frozen in place for a second or two and then could immediately resume beating the shit out of the antag they are fighting.
As for the specific antag gear items this buff would most likely be visible with (csaber, katana), i agree that it would for the average player help in some situations. There would still be major issues though:
Without this change (how the game currently is), average john space who buys a csaber might kill a guy in the hall and then (likely) lose it and die to two or three other guys in the hall.
With this change, john space would (probably) be successful in killing all three of the guys in the hall, and then, most likely be forced into trading clicks with a security officer who has a baton; and get KO'ed out of comission regardless of their success in the precursor fight.
As an alternative way to buff melee gear users, blocking with a high damage item (lets say greater than or equal to 10) could resist the stun from incoming chairflippers, instead disorienting the blocker and hurting the chairflipper in question. I think this would have a greater shot at nullifying the problem in question.