Goonhub
01-13-2026, 03:06 PM
Unsure if this is peanut posting, but this is my perspective as player who is not involved with people who play shelterfrog.
I have seen a lot of sillicon talking on the radio about how they can harm amphibians because their non human status because one of the character is "ICly bulliable". It is getting uncomfortable as passerby hearing insults and IC harrassment from silicon roundstarr because they can. In some cases, as AI, I would also watch players to rush to human themselves, while picking a trait that make them non human. As someone who is not part of this "bullying", this feel odd. Do you have to tell silicon to stop being mean towards a character, do you have to resolve it IC and just tune it out of your system because it is a small clique thing?
Another thing to add, one of goon appeal is that fantasy racism is not allowed. I feel as a player, shelterfrog non human status is used to find a leeway to this rule. To the point, I have seen people talking about how ugly and horrible these things are and silicon stating a lot about how killable they are before any event in round happens. In some cases, I've keep hearing how people will drag them to sec as "torture methods" because how ugly and horrible looking they are or kidnapping them for being a disgusting creature, even as pseudo sheltesfrog. This feels uncomfortable for players who feels welcome in goon for strict rules against "spacism"
Also, adding to this, in the past, there were some monkey captains and monkey security. I think there were also same issues related to being non-human and command/sec, but from my perspective, I have not seen these players always ending up with silicon on roundstart radio talking about how they want to kill and harm these characters for not being non human. Though, monkey-ing a player also involve not so secret way.
I think the change is expected. It involves two things, secret and being "non human". This means you need a longterm project around the mechanic. Also, it is an unavoidable change if a decision of a player who is done in long term, ended up showing some holes related how stuff are designed and rules related to it. I have nothing against players who plays amphibian characters the same way as monkey players, I would love new stuff to roundstart mutantrace. Though, the same as some mechanics of the game, at one point, if it becomes too meta, something needs to be toned or changed. Temporary measure also exist I assume because how much time need to be put for a voluntary project, not out of disorganization
I have seen a lot of sillicon talking on the radio about how they can harm amphibians because their non human status because one of the character is "ICly bulliable". It is getting uncomfortable as passerby hearing insults and IC harrassment from silicon roundstarr because they can. In some cases, as AI, I would also watch players to rush to human themselves, while picking a trait that make them non human. As someone who is not part of this "bullying", this feel odd. Do you have to tell silicon to stop being mean towards a character, do you have to resolve it IC and just tune it out of your system because it is a small clique thing?
Another thing to add, one of goon appeal is that fantasy racism is not allowed. I feel as a player, shelterfrog non human status is used to find a leeway to this rule. To the point, I have seen people talking about how ugly and horrible these things are and silicon stating a lot about how killable they are before any event in round happens. In some cases, I've keep hearing how people will drag them to sec as "torture methods" because how ugly and horrible looking they are or kidnapping them for being a disgusting creature, even as pseudo sheltesfrog. This feels uncomfortable for players who feels welcome in goon for strict rules against "spacism"
Also, adding to this, in the past, there were some monkey captains and monkey security. I think there were also same issues related to being non-human and command/sec, but from my perspective, I have not seen these players always ending up with silicon on roundstart radio talking about how they want to kill and harm these characters for not being non human. Though, monkey-ing a player also involve not so secret way.
I think the change is expected. It involves two things, secret and being "non human". This means you need a longterm project around the mechanic. Also, it is an unavoidable change if a decision of a player who is done in long term, ended up showing some holes related how stuff are designed and rules related to it. I have nothing against players who plays amphibian characters the same way as monkey players, I would love new stuff to roundstart mutantrace. Though, the same as some mechanics of the game, at one point, if it becomes too meta, something needs to be toned or changed. Temporary measure also exist I assume because how much time need to be put for a voluntary project, not out of disorganization