06-29-2025, 02:20 AM
(06-29-2025, 12:26 AM)Taylorstar Wrote: I'd like to voice an opinion against this idea.
Getting a cloning kit is already very easy through cargo or scanning copies with a device analyzer, trying to find a way around that is in a way of trying to avoid roleplay.
In addition its not that much more work to quietly block the delivery route and using your card/ID to order it and pick it up leaving at least a hint that you have done something, if your in a position to steal/intercept a delivery and construct it thats 80% of the challenge.
Stealth/pacifist antagging is already very easy to fall into and catered to, I think more avenues should be made looked at so there are more various routes and approaches to achieve these goals all requiring interacting with other players encouraging creative thinking and approaches whether its a funny RP gimmick. getting all access or stealing someone elses ID. There are good avenues to be explored.
It still requires atleast something like 50k+ credits to obtain. Maybe more depending on the pricing.
That still requires antagging in another sense or doing something to get that much capital unless you are the HoP messing with the paychecks/bank statements.
You have to be very obivious to obtain one right now, with this.. it's still obivious but less painful. You need to amass a lot of credits by yourself.
Now you don't need to involve several witnesses. Or less. You still need specific gear to build the dang thing and if you ain't an engineer that means one thing... stealing engineerings stuff just in case.
This only removes cargo from the equisation and adds another route to obtain a cloner. Wich in my opinion is good. What if cargo got bombed and can't order? Now you can buy one from a trader by using the funds you collectively have as a station. So it's a net plus to fight mad bombers and it's a net plus for antags.
The only minus is the fact you don't need cargo.
I love being obivious as an antag but I love giving players options more. Cause in the end... the antag will leave a lead and once the evil cloning starts? PDA's will go off and AI's will be looking.