06-29-2025, 02:03 AM
(06-29-2025, 12:26 AM)Taylorstar Wrote: I'd like to voice an opinion against this idea.
Getting a cloning kit is already very easy through cargo or scanning copies with a device analyzer, trying to find a way around that is in a way of trying to avoid roleplay.
In addition its not that much more work to quietly block the delivery route and using your card/ID to order it and pick it up leaving at least a hint that you have done something, if your in a position to steal/intercept a delivery and construct it thats 80% of the challenge.
Stealth/pacifist antagging is already very easy to fall into and catered to, I think more avenues should be made looked at so there are more various routes and approaches to achieve these goals all requiring interacting with other players encouraging creative thinking and approaches whether its a funny RP gimmick. getting all access or stealing someone elses ID. There are good avenues to be explored.
Yeah no the real issue is the PDA alert, completely compromising any stealth approach.
I mean sure, it technically is possible, you just need to eliminate the AI, have everyone turn their PDA off and Cargo empty. Plus the Cargo Logs always can be checked.
Congratulations, you spend 40-60 minutes so you can actually start your intended RP.
Making it per MechScan? Honey, the road bump is honey.
You need to invest either quite some time to do it yourself, ask Botanist (meaning there need to be some and pray they actually do it) or get it per A-Zone aka Meta-ing at least somewhat.
The problem isn't the lack of ways to acquiring a Cloner Kit, it is the investment needed of your most relevant resource as an Antag: Time.
I'm very much pro this. Just getting the basis of your RP with a cloner requiring so much time is frustrating, because working so hard for this, just to be found out through the traces left behind by the acquisition is pure purgatory.