Atmospheric Pipe Changes Megathread

[TrickyWolfer]

I am going to be frank, as I am tired of beating around the bush and do not have the time to directly address and respond to the individual points and claims made at separate times.

The manifold system was something that completely bypassed the intended mechanics of how pressure functions in pipes, and in order to maintain balance with all atmospheric-related systems, TEG, Toxins, and Nuclear, it needed to be changed.

The TEG is not some scorned black sheep who has been destroyed by this change, nor does it take significantly more effort to get more performance out of it than other engines comparatively. Arguably, it takes considerably less.

I'm sorry for not replying for a while; I've been busy 

The thing about "Creativity" or ingenuity is that it makes use of things that aren't meant to be. PTL forever feeding the singularity is definitely not the intended use, but then (used to) work well. TEG running on energy drinks and potato batteries is also not intended use. Just the matter of "how many corners I can cut", "how can I balance these smartass engineers", and in TEG, just so happen manifolds was the main target. Definitely no beating around bushes here, good discussion, good insights from all sides.

It's also generally "bad design" all around engineer in all engines since we have to rely on a lot of either 
a. Mining (Asteroid RNG moment), so it sometimes felt frustrating to set it up at first
b. Outside information (most notably on TEG due jank atmos)

I don't think another megathread would fix the problem easily :9, so for now, i think focusing one at a time is good after some TEG lengthy discussion.

Back to Atmos pipes; I'm thinking about the "price" to implement the ideas you got. As in, how many coders actually touch the pee pee poo poo atmos. I know for sure Cringe's been dabbling in one but even with a good knowledge of it, SS13 just has a tendency to nuke atmos (air fell into negatives in the recent bug report iirc). One that could be combined with your idea is probably Tamakona's Tokamak pipes; Imagine chemically reinforced pipes + forcefield pipes that actively siphon power. That's engaging, and i'm willing to spend like 40 minutes to set everything up just to make sure it's nigh leakless, it's fun!