Security should need to follow laws

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Ah, the Space Law page, forgot about that one. Sure, you can follow those, but it's not a requirement. I don't follow them when I play Sec.

"I have done exactly This Crime so I expect two minutes and thirty seconds in the brig" is not something you should be coming into Sec thinking to yourself. That's my point.

I don't see the use in knowing how many seconds you are will need to stay in the brig (and I will say again that I don't expect officers to be this strict about it), what I do see the use in is knowing if you are going to get executed or not.

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Goon is different then a lot of servers.  Part of this is we do not perma brig. We do not have a warden. We do not have a formalized or enforced law system In Game other then the vaguest and most general guidelines.

Part of the mechanics of this is goon is fast and arcadey. This is a concious design choice and player and admin preference.  We have on rp short respawns and easy cloning.

If your punishment was going to be like half the round or more due to the severity why would I not just let you respawn. I have other stuff to do and presumably so do you.

As Jan mentioned, on the field in the moment decisions are a part of sec on Goon. They're a part of sec everywhere.  But here if theres 10+gun toting gang members running around a sec off opts to pick up their dropped gun and finish one off that was just shooting them and using a civie as a human shield? The crew won't  suddenly try to beat the sec off up for "breaking space law".

I like it here.  I did alot of baystation security. I've done alot of goon security.

I know which I prefer.  From a crew, antag, and secmain outlook

I am not suggesting any new forms of punishment for players who break Space Law, I am not suggesting officers shouldn't be allowed to make in the moment decisions. I am suggesting that, in the completely officer controlled scenario of an arrest gone good, the criminal knows what kind of trouble he is in.