Goonhub
01-27-2025, 10:36 AM
I agree a lot with the points made in this thread, vampire power scaling is sort of ridiculous and it feels more tuned to classic antag gameplay than RP. Frost bats, as mentioned by others, is the big ability which makes you actually dangerous as a vampire, but it's locked behind several kills to get. The problem with this on RP is that you need to properly escalate, perhaps talk up your victim until they let their guard down, all while hoping that your last body you left behind isn't found by sec or some maint explorer.
I've honestly never had an RP vampire game with over 4 or 5 kills. Call it a skill issue, but getting that many kills while not just wordlessly glaring, dragging off someone, and draining them of their blood is difficult in itself, let alone with RP. I enjoyed the dynamics with vampires stealing the blood fridge/breaking into medbay to steal the blood and get some early power, but I get why those passive sources of blood accumulation were removed as well. The problem is that Vampire is already the weakest antag in its early stages, so it basically just made the early game upcliff climb even harder to overcome.
I'd enjoy a nerfed ice bats(maybe 2 or 3???) unlocking after a single kill to help secure further victims, and definitely a decrease in vampire ability sounds, by a significant degree. I wouldn't mind even having the glare ability only be heard in close(2-3 tile) proximity to the vampire, but maybe that's a bit too far.
I've honestly never had an RP vampire game with over 4 or 5 kills. Call it a skill issue, but getting that many kills while not just wordlessly glaring, dragging off someone, and draining them of their blood is difficult in itself, let alone with RP. I enjoyed the dynamics with vampires stealing the blood fridge/breaking into medbay to steal the blood and get some early power, but I get why those passive sources of blood accumulation were removed as well. The problem is that Vampire is already the weakest antag in its early stages, so it basically just made the early game upcliff climb even harder to overcome.
I'd enjoy a nerfed ice bats(maybe 2 or 3???) unlocking after a single kill to help secure further victims, and definitely a decrease in vampire ability sounds, by a significant degree. I wouldn't mind even having the glare ability only be heard in close(2-3 tile) proximity to the vampire, but maybe that's a bit too far.