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Sec Equipment being overtuned
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I main security but I'll try and keep this objective.

I will be mostly talking about RP

Yes, the stuns are quite powerful. Most officers will make attempts to RP and deescalate situations, leaving the antags to fire off the first shot. In most cases, antags against security in a 1v1 is heavily shifted towards the antag. Unless you're already known to be one and the officer is warry of you.

Archfiends- powerful stunner, burn damage, built-in radio jammer. An isolated target stands no chance. Once the victim is down, unless help arrives, it's over. If all else fails, wirehopps away.

Vampires- although the sechuds counter the glare it's somewhat balanced with the jiggly-wiggly, bat form, coffin retreat. Even though you're a vampire, it doesn't stop you from using other methods to get an upper hand. 

Changelings- in RP, the capu sting is very noticeable and is hard to pick security off, which really bothers me. But if horror form is possible to be done against a smaller number of officers then the odds are in your favor. Basically immune to stuns. Only way to get hurt is harm battoning which leaves them exposed to be eaten.

Traitors- rad xbows are brutal. Depending on the role you have, device analyzers are capable of quite some devastation. Stimulants and similar drugs. I've seen combos that take out officers left and right.

Spiefs- pretty much traitors but with surprise mechanics.

Gangs- As someone else said, security will always be outnumbered, at least 2:1. To add to that, security does not really go guns blazing and will most likely be attacked first. Depending on how many and what weapons are used, it can be catastrophic.

Basically, every antag security comes across will have a plethora of methods to cause harm and chaos while security will only have one method unless the armory is authorized which itself will not make that much difference in what approach is going to be taken. 
Knowing what security has already gives you an edge. Picking isolated ones, especially since the HUD emergency button has been removed should reward you with success. 

In my opinion, security stuns- although powerful, should not be nerfed. If they are, maybe just slightly.
Antags have a wide array of items, powers, abilities to make a secoff's shift a nightmare. 
As I stated in a suggestion, I do believe that some antags should recieve small buffs to give the early game a bit of a quick start, quieter sound cues and similar.

I cannot say much about classic but in RP, antags that take a little more time to plan out their attacks and sprinkle in some nuance always come on top.
Most times I notice security steamroll is with newer players or the ones that just pull a gun in the halls, open fire and end up getting arrested and the gun confiscated.
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Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Lt487 - 12-07-2024, 07:21 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by TDHooligan - 12-07-2024, 07:42 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by le mon - 12-07-2024, 10:29 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kotlol - 12-08-2024, 10:29 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by KikiMofo - 12-08-2024, 12:14 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Cal - 12-08-2024, 12:31 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kateaclysm - 12-08-2024, 12:40 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by freedo5 - 12-10-2024, 06:10 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-08-2024, 04:47 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by le mon - 12-08-2024, 07:27 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Lt487 - 12-09-2024, 01:18 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Cal - 12-09-2024, 02:50 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Glamurio - 12-09-2024, 03:27 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by JORJ949 - 12-09-2024, 03:59 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-09-2024, 05:40 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kateaclysm - 12-10-2024, 01:02 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-10-2024, 09:33 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-10-2024, 09:50 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-10-2024, 01:14 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Confuseddp - 12-10-2024, 01:38 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-10-2024, 05:05 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-10-2024, 05:23 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-10-2024, 05:32 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-10-2024, 06:51 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Carton - 12-10-2024, 07:11 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-10-2024, 07:22 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by le mon - 12-10-2024, 07:35 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by klushy225 - 12-10-2024, 07:37 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by mona - 12-10-2024, 07:56 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Carton - 12-10-2024, 08:06 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kateaclysm - 12-10-2024, 08:07 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Lt487 - 12-10-2024, 10:14 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kotlol - 12-11-2024, 04:22 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by JORJ949 - 12-11-2024, 04:35 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Cal - 12-11-2024, 08:02 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by JORJ949 - 12-12-2024, 06:34 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kotlol - 12-13-2024, 03:15 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by avanth - 12-11-2024, 11:31 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Emimiyu - 12-13-2024, 04:32 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by JORJ949 - 12-15-2024, 02:09 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kotlol - 12-15-2024, 03:46 AM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by JORJ949 - 12-15-2024, 12:27 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Kotlol - 12-15-2024, 12:53 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by KikiMofo - 12-15-2024, 05:11 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by NanoDano - 12-17-2024, 06:52 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Cal - 12-22-2024, 12:32 PM
RE: Sec Equipment being overtuned - by Dr. Puggers - 01-20-2025, 07:02 AM

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