Goonhub
01-06-2025, 04:59 AM
With constructible atmos Ive been back in toxins for quite some time now.
Toxins is now actually viable for high temp burns although the setup I am using does not depend on much in toxins.
The limiting factor now are time and access to gas.
Oxygen can be ordered infinitely and plasma is generally present in more then sufficient quantities but those alone are not enough to keep a burn alive.
To keep the burn from dying you want to use farts or oxygen agent b.
Farts have been added to the QM rotation as part of Buffords trades.
The issue here is that this is not a guaranteed trader. With the time it takes for the market to reroll you might go a substantially long time without access to farts stopping you from even starting a burn.
The alternative is F. I did spend multiple hours pressing the same button over and over and over now. Even with the help of 2-3 people it does take 5-10 minutes of farting to get a quantity that is enough to keep the burn going for some time. At least this way you can start the burn and keep farming farts while the burn is ongoing BUT obviously this is straining and painful over time.
Oxygen agent b I havent done much testing with but it is possible to extract the agent b using vent scrubbers now and isolate it.
Due to the low quantity of roundstart molitz beta I havent been able to test if its meaningful in the burn.
Acquiring more molitz beta is directly tied to mining. No mining no molitz.
Mining yourself is an issue if you have to build an entire burn setup on top of the ~45 minute burn and not feasible in a classic round.
To combat the issue of RNG / button spam and have it be feasible to actually experiment with burns Id like to see more ways of acquiring the aforementioned gasses.
Toxins should probably start off with an entire or even just half full methane canister.
I dont think oxygen agent b should be directly accessible and some effort to extract it should persist but having a more reliable way of obtaining molitz beta through a dedicated trading interface in science would be nice.
Toxins now has a way to actually make money by blowing stuff up so let us use the money to buy canisters of methane and pieces of molitz beta directly.
The trading interface could include a limited set of ores used to extract gasses such as plasmastone, molitz, molitz beta, char and cerenkite (that can be used to make fallout right?) and run off a dedicated toxins budget for which you need to make money using the explosive power of different bombs.
If there are alternatives especially around the oxygen agent b feel free to share them.
Toxins is now actually viable for high temp burns although the setup I am using does not depend on much in toxins.
The limiting factor now are time and access to gas.
Oxygen can be ordered infinitely and plasma is generally present in more then sufficient quantities but those alone are not enough to keep a burn alive.
To keep the burn from dying you want to use farts or oxygen agent b.
Farts have been added to the QM rotation as part of Buffords trades.
The issue here is that this is not a guaranteed trader. With the time it takes for the market to reroll you might go a substantially long time without access to farts stopping you from even starting a burn.
The alternative is F. I did spend multiple hours pressing the same button over and over and over now. Even with the help of 2-3 people it does take 5-10 minutes of farting to get a quantity that is enough to keep the burn going for some time. At least this way you can start the burn and keep farming farts while the burn is ongoing BUT obviously this is straining and painful over time.
Oxygen agent b I havent done much testing with but it is possible to extract the agent b using vent scrubbers now and isolate it.
Due to the low quantity of roundstart molitz beta I havent been able to test if its meaningful in the burn.
Acquiring more molitz beta is directly tied to mining. No mining no molitz.
Mining yourself is an issue if you have to build an entire burn setup on top of the ~45 minute burn and not feasible in a classic round.
To combat the issue of RNG / button spam and have it be feasible to actually experiment with burns Id like to see more ways of acquiring the aforementioned gasses.
Toxins should probably start off with an entire or even just half full methane canister.
I dont think oxygen agent b should be directly accessible and some effort to extract it should persist but having a more reliable way of obtaining molitz beta through a dedicated trading interface in science would be nice.
Toxins now has a way to actually make money by blowing stuff up so let us use the money to buy canisters of methane and pieces of molitz beta directly.
The trading interface could include a limited set of ores used to extract gasses such as plasmastone, molitz, molitz beta, char and cerenkite (that can be used to make fallout right?) and run off a dedicated toxins budget for which you need to make money using the explosive power of different bombs.
If there are alternatives especially around the oxygen agent b feel free to share them.