Sec Equipment being overtuned

[mona]

Additionally, the 'screw the newbies' mindset isn't really healthy for the growth and longevity of the game.

I don't think you read correctly. i am of the opinion new players can be thrown a bone, the ones I'm concerned about, however, are sec players, not necessarily antags. and thus, i think nerfing the capacity of newer players to figure it out unless they explicitly have the 5k hour sec main on the team to guide them isn't good.

if this is the core of it, i don't think we'll ever agree on the subject since we're interested in different sides of new player experience.

Additionally, I'm not a fan of the prescence of certain rude behavior in this thread.

you can just say me instead of being passive aggressive about it. i'm incredibly jaded, it's true, i'm tired of thhe "we should nerf sec" discussions every six months because ultimately what i said is true: collaborative open-source community game development means that there are always people who want to iterate on xyz (as someone who has also dev'd for this game for 5 years, some of it worthwhile, some of it really is just iterating changes like that); i've also played a lot of sec and a lot of hos and this server and ss13 in general and am happy with where the game balance is at now and don't see much need to change it for aforementioned reasons; i'd rather be looking at ways to diversify antag kits than keep poking numbers or removing only to re-add in 2 years to remove to re-add.

again: i think the capacity of playing well as security shouldn't be some big esoteric thing you only figure out after 1 year and 1k hours of playing and if you have you and your three best buds ever running the team with you. safeguards to help new players feel confident in the role and not get defeated too fast by it are good.