Let's talk about the Detective

[Nerkson]

Some rough ideas and bullet points...

• On the topic of the Detective feeling too powerful : Perhaps that could be a compromise on the detectives gun? The standard stubby reloads much slower but fires extremely fast, while the job-reward model can be reloaded like now but still has its single click firing?
  

• Frankly removing all the actually damaging ammo except for the armory is a nerf enough. Unlike Tasers, once a detectives out of ammo, he's out. And there's usually plenty of stun bullets everywhere.
  

• On making the detective more distinct as a role: I've loved ideas for things like corkboards for a while, a place to put up notes, forensic scans, and pictures, however rounds are typically pretty fast and criminals rarely want to be caught and are caught fairly quickly.
  
• The detectives effectiveness is tied proportionally to how much an antag wants to prepare for crime and ultimately wants to be caught- if the antag creates a crime locker, keeps a pair of gloves they only use for crime there, and destroyed gloves/clothes often (or heaven forbids takes time to use cleaning chemicals to remove prints from stuff) then they could realistically not get caught for a very long time. Having a fancy hat and a cool forensic scanner mean nothing so long there's more than one antag in the round and you're not as loud as the chef who keeps taking blood donations through the walls.
  
• I think thats still worth keeping in mind that having access to security is still a very high perk, especially if detectives are capable of opening contraband or grabbing other officers stuff while mindhacked.Yeah the antag wouldn't have a gun in hypothetical "what if the dets gun is in a secure place" but having the ability to erase any records, force beepsky to arrest anyone, and have the best recon tool in the game is still premium. In short, you'd end up with a thread a few months after such a change demanding the Det VR goggles be nerfed/locked behind more restrictions, and then ones about security access or anything else the detective can do.