Goonhub
10-04-2024, 12:45 PM
it may just be the fact that I'm sleep-deprived but I genuinely can't tell what people are up in arms about. this is one of the most straightforward pieces of rp rules policy on goon and the only real flaw in the initial post imo is perhaps the formal tone making it kinda unclear whether this stuff was newly codified or not
people who are trying to move the discussion to "goon should be 18+ by default" are missing the point: it's not 18+ as-is, and arguing that it should radically shift its public-facing demographic (especially when there are, as zamu mentioned, other sfw 18+ servers!! to fill that niche!!) seems like... I dunno, kinda weird to me? it's also not hard to just ask your rp partner, through dms or looc, whether they're a kid with the explanation that you don't want to play romantically tinged dolls with a kid as an adult, because That's Weird. on the off case that they lie that they're not a kid but they are, I highly doubt the admins would side against you if you're just honest about the situation, because at that point, you took your responsibility and what happened isn't your fault
as someone with a disorder that puts me in the trenches daily regarding Morality, it's extremely valuable to be able to separate The Ideal from The Reality. you can argue that goon's ludicrous violence and plethora of funny drugs make it inherently bad for kids, and I genuinely think you have a point. but there's a major Major difference in a kid seeing their character explode into blood and gore, versus a kid being in a situation where another character, a proxy for Another Real Human Person, is trying to make out with theirs and they don't know how to say no because it's the first time something like this has happened to them. society, in its hypocrisy, has given them plenty of tools to deal with the former, but not the latter. is this fucked up? yes. would this not be the case in An Ideal society? for sure. but it is the hand we're working with, and to call for a different hand as your First Alternative just seems obtuse
also, as a quarter-century old man, honestly I am glad that it's against the rules for people to swap spit in-game. I don't want to see that. it's not Puritanical to not wanna see people having e-sex (or the leadup to e-sex) in the digital equivalent of a public place, it's a matter of consent. goonstation isn't one of the servers that just says "hey you're gonna see people getting Intimate" up front, so I think it's extremely reasonable for other people to feel the same. and, due to how observers Are, you can never be sure you're alone. during the first half a year or so I played, I mostly observed lowpop rp rounds, and god damn, I saw some Repeat Sexual Behavior that I sure wish I didn't. that's part of why I'm glad the no sexual content rule is being properly enforced nowadays
people who are trying to move the discussion to "goon should be 18+ by default" are missing the point: it's not 18+ as-is, and arguing that it should radically shift its public-facing demographic (especially when there are, as zamu mentioned, other sfw 18+ servers!! to fill that niche!!) seems like... I dunno, kinda weird to me? it's also not hard to just ask your rp partner, through dms or looc, whether they're a kid with the explanation that you don't want to play romantically tinged dolls with a kid as an adult, because That's Weird. on the off case that they lie that they're not a kid but they are, I highly doubt the admins would side against you if you're just honest about the situation, because at that point, you took your responsibility and what happened isn't your fault
as someone with a disorder that puts me in the trenches daily regarding Morality, it's extremely valuable to be able to separate The Ideal from The Reality. you can argue that goon's ludicrous violence and plethora of funny drugs make it inherently bad for kids, and I genuinely think you have a point. but there's a major Major difference in a kid seeing their character explode into blood and gore, versus a kid being in a situation where another character, a proxy for Another Real Human Person, is trying to make out with theirs and they don't know how to say no because it's the first time something like this has happened to them. society, in its hypocrisy, has given them plenty of tools to deal with the former, but not the latter. is this fucked up? yes. would this not be the case in An Ideal society? for sure. but it is the hand we're working with, and to call for a different hand as your First Alternative just seems obtuse
also, as a quarter-century old man, honestly I am glad that it's against the rules for people to swap spit in-game. I don't want to see that. it's not Puritanical to not wanna see people having e-sex (or the leadup to e-sex) in the digital equivalent of a public place, it's a matter of consent. goonstation isn't one of the servers that just says "hey you're gonna see people getting Intimate" up front, so I think it's extremely reasonable for other people to feel the same. and, due to how observers Are, you can never be sure you're alone. during the first half a year or so I played, I mostly observed lowpop rp rounds, and god damn, I saw some Repeat Sexual Behavior that I sure wish I didn't. that's part of why I'm glad the no sexual content rule is being properly enforced nowadays