Romance and Goonstation RP

[Zamujasa]

I am NOT going to go checking IDs, this is a volunteer thing we do for fun

it's a good thing nobody suggested doing ID checks other than *checks notes* zewaka!

other places exist that are 18+ without doing it. everyone's favorite, tg station. coolstation. there are others.

Honestly, I feel like people are missing the point with this one. I don't like the fact goon is 13+ either, but the original driving point behind this post was very clearly meant to be the exclusionary behaviour that some folks who do romance RP on goon tend to trend towards

then deal with the people causing the problem? if people are taking head roles and then fucking off, regardless of if they're doing it with a buddy or not, then headban them? if people are being exclusionary on a regular basis, then idk, ban them? that seems to be what they did in linkey's case.

the main beef i have with this whole thing is that it's being used as more "but think of the children!" puritanism when kids shouldn't be playing this game in the first place.

like even if you try to argue this shit, goon has gone heavy handed on "do your job" type rulings. fucking off into space with a pal isn't doing your job if you're a captain. whallop them under that rule, you don't have to invent whole new ones.

Honestly I think Joel put it the best. (Impressive for a tired stream of consciousness) I've seen a lot of weird and uncomfortable behaviour on the RP servers between players doing romance and this post is about addressing that and defining guidelines for the RP players, not to debate an age limit.

the problem is that the age limit is being used a a justification for these changes. it's not "these behaviors are exclusionary and we don't want players doing them" -- sure, whatever, i disagree but what else is new -- it's "we don't want players doing this because minors play here and we can't have them seeing things that are bad", which is an extremely transparently puritan POV in this fucking game of all things.


"we can't expose kids to romance like people making out, but we can expose them to gruesome murder, violence, and drugs" is an utterly hypocritical opinion to have, and it's the foundation of a lot of beef.

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To offer an additional clarification: Zamu "left the team" because she was in the middle of being forcibly removed from it, for a long history of both violating guidelines regarding player trust and admin trust, and for verbally abusing people behind closed doors on the admin team to the point where numerous people left or stopped contributing to the project, including myself. If you are concerned about the atmosphere on the admin team, I'm happy to reassure you that it's actually better now than it has been in a long time.

thanks for the shoutout i've tried to make it very clear that i quit because of an active deadmin vote you started at my suggestion but i guess it isn't always communicated properly.