Goonhub
10-04-2024, 12:35 AM
To do this a different way:
Hello, I'm old. One thing I used to do a long time ago when I was less old was I was a paid employee of Iron Realms Entertainment, a company with the slightly dubious claim to fame of "inventing pay to win before it was cool" by commercializing MUDs. My job was fairly meagre to be honest: I would play one of the "gods" (if you thought admins were taking themselves seriously here) make areas, answer customer complaints. Liase with players on an RP level so on. I was pretty bad at it I can get you some testimonials.
Achaea was very definitively 18+, still is you can go look. It makes it fundamentally clear. I was also under an NDA until like two years ago so it's nice sometimes to talk about things. One thing I don't generally talk about is the skin-crawlingly bad stuff going on with underage players, player IC/OOC romances becoming a giant, catastrophic mess, and one time an event where someone was forced to come out to an admin team basically to explain behaviour in an extremely strange situation. I still personally hate myself and everyone involved for that particular event. I have absolutely no idea what it's like being an admin here, but if it's 10% of that they've got my sympathy and you couldn't pay me to do this again.
My point of saying all that is multifold:
* I suspect it's impossible to stop younger players playing if you couldn't stop them playing a text-based hyper niche game either, and you'll be stuck doing exactly the same thing we were: Just banning the underage player, reporting what you can to local authorities, and discovering you missed a significant portion of them about five years later.
* I, and this is personal I admit: Think people on average are actually not very capable of separating romantic roleplay from their out of character emotional attachment most of the time. I think people who are brilliant, wonderful and I respect them a lot and it's nice to know them here: Still screw this up regularly.
*And with this in mind, having as much clarification so that people might approach romantic roleplay with these points at least in mind hopefully means that there's still a pathway to doing it which is great, but that things that can and *would* lead to problems for the people involved, admins, and everyone are shut down as early as possible.
I'm not personally invested in this, nor am I remotely engaged with the administration. I'm not dismissing the discussion here either it's clearly an important thing to discuss. But I'm also saying it because you know what: I'm good if the admins don't want to have to deal with this because I remember dealing with it.
Hello, I'm old. One thing I used to do a long time ago when I was less old was I was a paid employee of Iron Realms Entertainment, a company with the slightly dubious claim to fame of "inventing pay to win before it was cool" by commercializing MUDs. My job was fairly meagre to be honest: I would play one of the "gods" (if you thought admins were taking themselves seriously here) make areas, answer customer complaints. Liase with players on an RP level so on. I was pretty bad at it I can get you some testimonials.
Achaea was very definitively 18+, still is you can go look. It makes it fundamentally clear. I was also under an NDA until like two years ago so it's nice sometimes to talk about things. One thing I don't generally talk about is the skin-crawlingly bad stuff going on with underage players, player IC/OOC romances becoming a giant, catastrophic mess, and one time an event where someone was forced to come out to an admin team basically to explain behaviour in an extremely strange situation. I still personally hate myself and everyone involved for that particular event. I have absolutely no idea what it's like being an admin here, but if it's 10% of that they've got my sympathy and you couldn't pay me to do this again.
My point of saying all that is multifold:
* I suspect it's impossible to stop younger players playing if you couldn't stop them playing a text-based hyper niche game either, and you'll be stuck doing exactly the same thing we were: Just banning the underage player, reporting what you can to local authorities, and discovering you missed a significant portion of them about five years later.
* I, and this is personal I admit: Think people on average are actually not very capable of separating romantic roleplay from their out of character emotional attachment most of the time. I think people who are brilliant, wonderful and I respect them a lot and it's nice to know them here: Still screw this up regularly.
*And with this in mind, having as much clarification so that people might approach romantic roleplay with these points at least in mind hopefully means that there's still a pathway to doing it which is great, but that things that can and *would* lead to problems for the people involved, admins, and everyone are shut down as early as possible.
I'm not personally invested in this, nor am I remotely engaged with the administration. I'm not dismissing the discussion here either it's clearly an important thing to discuss. But I'm also saying it because you know what: I'm good if the admins don't want to have to deal with this because I remember dealing with it.