Goonhub
10-03-2024, 09:32 PM
I should really be frying spam instead of posting this, but alas, my heart burns with passion; I have no power and I must protest.
I used this argument before, and I'll use it again. There is an entire category of "teenage / young adult romance".
christ i know this post is gonna get censored but god
not all of these are even remotely similar. "pinning someone under a blanket", heavens. farting on one another! this is literal shit you see in teenage comedy films! i grew up with sandlot, a coming-of-age-ish comedy where they do tabacco and puke everywhere and oogle girls! this is being more prude than vhs tapes aimed at kids
this is, to put it bluntly, your (the people running this game) fault. you could, very easily, modify the parameters. you could allow peope to join as underage (16) year olds on a field trip; you could enforce a rule that says minors simply aren't allowed here; you could give them a hidden flag on their account they could use, or ask people their birthdate. i know you are all more than capable of marking and moniotiring accounts like this.
the "don't say anything you wouldn't say to a 13 year old" obviously falls apart unless you couch it entirely in "romance".
would you say "i'm going to rip off your limbs" to a 13 year old, in a position where you could conceivably do so in game?
what about "i'm going to murder your friends, in front of you, and then kill you too"? is that too far?
the obvious question is that violence is fine, but romance is not. blowing someone's brains out with a joke revolver and watching their eyeballs splatter halfway down the hall is fine; seeing two people making out is a line too far. an elite team of redsuits sent explicitly to murder you and annihiliate your entire workplace is fine, but laying in the same bed isn't.
skill issue. not all players are in the right place in life to play this game, either, and it's their (and unfortunately, your) responsibility to make that decision and come back if and when the time is right.
if they don't want to see it, all they have to do is ... not look at it. go elsewhere. if someone is getting unwanted romantic advances, that is obviously an F1 issue, and this should be made clear. but otherwise this quickly becomes the "i consent! i consent! (jesus) I DONT!": if you aren't comfortable seeing your friend get dismembered by a rocket to the face, maybe you should play a different game
in short this entire thing seems to be a transparently prudish attempt at threading the needle of "we don't want any kind of romance here; we won't tell you where the line is, just that one exists, in hopes that it will discourage anyone from doing it".
also:
if i'm taking a break from my in-game job to get boozed up at the bar, someone walks up to me and goes "can you build me a copy of the cloner in science" and i say "no", and then they go "i really need this right now" and i say "i'm busy taking a break, if you don't leave me alone i will punch you", is that ok? like where does the "relationship" part have anything to do with this.
signed, not trying to be toxic, just incredibly frustrated at where this is going
I used this argument before, and I'll use it again. There is an entire category of "teenage / young adult romance".
christ i know this post is gonna get censored but god
Quote:referring to/implying active participation in sex work, pinning characters in blankets for forced "snuggling" without consent, sitting in another character's lap and facing them to emote making out and discussing wanting more, or locking the door, placing a "no" sticker on it, and climbing into bed together to silently roll and fart on one another. (Yes, those all happened.)
not all of these are even remotely similar. "pinning someone under a blanket", heavens. farting on one another! this is literal shit you see in teenage comedy films! i grew up with sandlot, a coming-of-age-ish comedy where they do tabacco and puke everywhere and oogle girls! this is being more prude than vhs tapes aimed at kids
Quote:2. Not all players are adults. Even though all the characters are 20+, the players are 13+. You have no way of knowing who is on the other side of the screen. If you wouldn't say whatever you're about to say to a 13 year old, do not say it on Goonstation.
this is, to put it bluntly, your (the people running this game) fault. you could, very easily, modify the parameters. you could allow peope to join as underage (16) year olds on a field trip; you could enforce a rule that says minors simply aren't allowed here; you could give them a hidden flag on their account they could use, or ask people their birthdate. i know you are all more than capable of marking and moniotiring accounts like this.
the "don't say anything you wouldn't say to a 13 year old" obviously falls apart unless you couch it entirely in "romance".
would you say "i'm going to rip off your limbs" to a 13 year old, in a position where you could conceivably do so in game?
what about "i'm going to murder your friends, in front of you, and then kill you too"? is that too far?
the obvious question is that violence is fine, but romance is not. blowing someone's brains out with a joke revolver and watching their eyeballs splatter halfway down the hall is fine; seeing two people making out is a line too far. an elite team of redsuits sent explicitly to murder you and annihiliate your entire workplace is fine, but laying in the same bed isn't.
Quote:3. Not all players, adult or not, are in a good place in life for romantic roleplay.
skill issue. not all players are in the right place in life to play this game, either, and it's their (and unfortunately, your) responsibility to make that decision and come back if and when the time is right.
if they don't want to see it, all they have to do is ... not look at it. go elsewhere. if someone is getting unwanted romantic advances, that is obviously an F1 issue, and this should be made clear. but otherwise this quickly becomes the "i consent! i consent! (jesus) I DONT!": if you aren't comfortable seeing your friend get dismembered by a rocket to the face, maybe you should play a different game
in short this entire thing seems to be a transparently prudish attempt at threading the needle of "we don't want any kind of romance here; we won't tell you where the line is, just that one exists, in hopes that it will discourage anyone from doing it".
also:
Quote:Threatening to harm/kill/maim people for interrupting a romantic conversation in order to ask you to do your jobis it okay to threaten to harm/kill/maim people for interrupting you in other cases to tell you to do your job, or is this just a really weird way of saying "someone did that, and since it was romanticly related, i threw it in the pile"?
if i'm taking a break from my in-game job to get boozed up at the bar, someone walks up to me and goes "can you build me a copy of the cloner in science" and i say "no", and then they go "i really need this right now" and i say "i'm busy taking a break, if you don't leave me alone i will punch you", is that ok? like where does the "relationship" part have anything to do with this.
signed, not trying to be toxic, just incredibly frustrated at where this is going