Prep time and pay off (Discussion/talk)

[Kotlol]

You are not oblighed to be able to rush your outcome. For this, beyond just your skill, you will need some luck. Because you are NOT meant to.

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Be creative and flexible. Most stuff that was too consistently happening is nerfed on purpose to either not be consistent or to be delayed.

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Being flexiable and creative is a thing, but yea gimmicks are hard but fun. But if you constantly are flexiable and avoiding single outcomes you end up defaulting to:
"The same easy antag behaviour"

It's how mind hacking security became popular. It was easy and accesiable.

But some things can be a lil bit more accesiable in my opinion. I don't want every antag to strife to go into rancher and make magic eggs and dragon eggs with raptors as their minions. Or a botanist growing certain "death plants"

But variety is the spice of life and I think some things are too hard for too lil pay off. Certain chems in science can be fun for antags to use but we will never see em as much cause "Secret Chem" and "too much time to work on" while the easier chem is right there doing basically the same thing.

It's just more fun for people to go: "Today I will do X insted of A" it's why this game is endlessly replayable in my opinion. And while not every letter in the alphabet has to be accesiable in plans. Some could use it just so something else can happen and in some jobs.. I needs to be done.

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As for my chef example. It's the easiest job with a lot of flexiable options being held back by timers and interactions by others.
The chef is the most busy and needs the most interaction from players and other departments to be the most fufilling and fun.
It ain't just a classic problem, it's also a RP problem that the chef sometimes cannot have their complete fun cause ingridents have to be grown before they can start making certain dishes. It's not awful, but it's an annoyance that brings it down.

I think I may have a suggestion how to mediate it a lil. But thats for something else.

I do think we need more discussion about other jobs that feel like there is too much prep time to and not enough pay off or the opposite. This ain't just antag focussed. It's jobs in general.