Unify Classic and RP Sec accesses

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This statement isn't based solely on this conversation alone, but also on my experience with sec culture on RP in general.

And while yes, the flow of information does work between crew and security, im specifically talking about help on a mechanical level. Being active to help security is highly discouraged and i've encountered dismissive behaviour plenty enough. It even goes so far that you can supply botany produce that is on the same level as robust donuts and it gets declined, telling me its disapproved to accept things from crew.

The cases that are working are the ones where security got specifically no access, like problems with the AI law rack. Or where they are forced to get help, like an engineer checking the power network against wirehopping arcfiends or getting their hands onto salt against wraiths.

Truth be told, i feel like sec on RP do make their situation worse than it is on high pop specifically by not accepting or calling for help more often. In turn, crew should feel less apathic towards antags. When i sometimes hop onto classic i find that this is something that works better over there, simply because the other crewmembers have more responsibility in dealing with antags. And this change can be a nudge to tell everyone "sec can't solve everything for you".

I am sorry, but what you're asking for here, simply goes against the "stay in your lane" clause.

Yes, security shouldn't accept big gifts from crew: 
You as an antag wouldn't want to see all secoffs armed with mechboots from mining at minute 15.
You as a doctor wouldn't want to see secoffs using omni pills, it steals your job.
You as absolutely anyone, you wouldn't want to see secoffs walking around with guns gifted by QM (without good reason that is).

That said, small gifts that don't impact the round a lot, like an artcell, pizza, wool padding, booze, apple produce, etc are always welcome

And when you say thay you want "other crewmembers hav[ing] more responsibility in dealing with antags", isn't it part of the RP rules that it's solely security's job to deal with antags (unless self defense, or major disaster, yada yada), with other departments having other responsabilities?