Goonhub
08-03-2024, 10:44 PM
how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man... as a few have already said, i really dont see how this will benefit the rp servers at all. access is a very powerful tool that many antags (or nonantags) often take advantage of in various ways in a round. be that getting into secure areas, stealing, altering records, etc, and they have many ways of getting to that access.
security does have a large portion of station access, but the station isnt the only place an antag can run off to. speaking from experience as someone who is mainly on rp, there are a Lot of traitors that utilize the listening outpost, and by extent, space. its not something security is particularly equipped to handle, they dont have their own space suits and they cant get into the outpost. nor can they easily track down an antag thats moved off station level. on top of that, a decent disguise (hell even a well placed shrub) is enough to make an entire security team run past you. antags arent missing out on prime criminal activity just because security can open the door to robotics.
to make a quick point about the potential harm, it isnt nonexistent. the ai is being brought up a lot in this thread for good reason, theyre going to be the main one being given orders to get into areas, second to maybe the captain or hos. security obviously runs into a lot of time sensitive situations, and an ai that isnt prompt in their response time (or maybe didnt see the request) could bear the brunt of a lot of frustration. while i dont think its fair to pin blame on another player for a mechanic of the game, frustration at an avoidable situation because you couldnt open an area of the station in time could end up directed at the perceived cause of it.
this does exist already with command areas, yes. sometimes youll see a couple of secoffs standing at the bridge airlocks patting them, waiting to be let in. a big difference here being command and ai upload are pretty confined areas, and command is typically prompt in helping out since its something actively affecting them. classic security has areas like *robotics* or *engineering* that they cant get into. doubling the amount of "ai door" or seeking out someone whos likely busy doing their job to not only let you in, but stick around to make sure you can get out, is not really enhancing the experience of anyone involved
security does have a large portion of station access, but the station isnt the only place an antag can run off to. speaking from experience as someone who is mainly on rp, there are a Lot of traitors that utilize the listening outpost, and by extent, space. its not something security is particularly equipped to handle, they dont have their own space suits and they cant get into the outpost. nor can they easily track down an antag thats moved off station level. on top of that, a decent disguise (hell even a well placed shrub) is enough to make an entire security team run past you. antags arent missing out on prime criminal activity just because security can open the door to robotics.
to make a quick point about the potential harm, it isnt nonexistent. the ai is being brought up a lot in this thread for good reason, theyre going to be the main one being given orders to get into areas, second to maybe the captain or hos. security obviously runs into a lot of time sensitive situations, and an ai that isnt prompt in their response time (or maybe didnt see the request) could bear the brunt of a lot of frustration. while i dont think its fair to pin blame on another player for a mechanic of the game, frustration at an avoidable situation because you couldnt open an area of the station in time could end up directed at the perceived cause of it.
this does exist already with command areas, yes. sometimes youll see a couple of secoffs standing at the bridge airlocks patting them, waiting to be let in. a big difference here being command and ai upload are pretty confined areas, and command is typically prompt in helping out since its something actively affecting them. classic security has areas like *robotics* or *engineering* that they cant get into. doubling the amount of "ai door" or seeking out someone whos likely busy doing their job to not only let you in, but stick around to make sure you can get out, is not really enhancing the experience of anyone involved