06-09-2024, 01:40 AM
(06-08-2024, 10:26 PM)KikiMofo Wrote: Leave Classic as Classic. If you want to force people to play a different way then you make a new server.
The reason it's Classic is because it's got the Classic Goon rules with antags being able to play however they wish without needing to worry about escalation rules or whatever. Or having to worry about RPing at all.
If I wanted to RP I'd play on an RP server. Not on the Classic server. (Not like I play that much anyway though)
and therein lies the problem with posts like this, imo. it's hard to have useful input when you don't actually play the game any more.
the problem as i understand it is that people on classic do not really do any rp at all. not in the sense of rp engagement or anything, but they are not playing a game with other people.
someone made this analogy but it's like a tabletop game that's supposed to be about goofy hijinks and wacky situations and then playing it "seriously" and trying to come out on top. and that poisons the well for everyone else.
it's like the prisoner's dilemma. if you can trust that the other person will go along with a gimmick, or that you can have some time and peace to work on your own stuff, things are better for everyone. if one person starts to abuse the meta or play to win or whatever, then that chokes out people who are trying to have fun. and so you get the rise of the other half of the problem, and you're left with a situation where the dominant force is a bunch of people playing to win while everyone else is trying to have fun.
if you take classic as a no-RP server (as some people do, instead of low-RP/LRP), then there's literally no reason to pick any job other than the unique gear/innates it comes with. just snip wires in anywhere you want to go, break in and be the worst tider out there. and that's not really fun for anyone but the person doing it.
it's a topic i have discussed at length and i will say have been pushing for implementing a no-powergaming rule, because i definitely see it as a problem. i don't think anyone wants to introduce escalation rules to classic as much as "please don't constantly be a silent/boring murderboner and/or validhunter".