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SMES unfair for Arcfiends
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(05-22-2024, 10:16 AM)Solenoid Wrote: This feels fine. I'd probably suggest empowered to fully block, and normal SMES would just slightly reduce stuns and stamina damage. I think proactive gameplay should be rewarded to an extent, but also agree with Silent that it shouldn't totally shut down an antag's round by making it too easy to prevent any of their abilities from working.

I’d definitely agree with the idea of the empowered version solely being the full counter so that arcfiends can’t be countered fully with a stabilized gene. Having to at least spend the genetic stability using the empowered version makes it seem more fair and in-line with the other counters listed. As for whether or not the base version of the gene should be a partial one, I’m not sure.

Something worth considering is also that while other antags do have counters, they are nearly never something that affects almost all of their abilities. Vampires have icebats, thralls, and grave touch if someone has glasses. Changelings have horrorform, arm varieries, limb critters, and lsd if someone has salts. In general antags have other ability types which let them work even with their counter on the field. Almost all of an arcfiend’s abilities are shocks of varying nature. While the magnetism ability does work as the arcfiend’s ability that gets around this “unionized” exists which entirely nullifies that. The only comparable antag I can think of are wizards who have their abilities nullified by chaplains. This interaction is role specific though.
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SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Silent Majority - 05-21-2024, 08:20 PM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Solenoid - 05-22-2024, 07:22 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by meaow589 - 05-22-2024, 08:44 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Kotlol - 05-22-2024, 08:37 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Solenoid - 05-22-2024, 10:16 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Wander - 05-22-2024, 10:39 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Cal - 05-22-2024, 11:14 AM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Wander - 05-22-2024, 12:15 PM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Emimiyu - 05-22-2024, 01:27 PM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Kotlol - 05-22-2024, 02:16 PM
RE: SMES unfair for Arcfiends - by Azurnite - 05-25-2024, 10:56 AM

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