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(04-13-2024, 06:58 AM)Kotlol Wrote: This is an old suggestion that has been requested before and we all said the same thing:

"No remote altering acces for HoP tools."

While in design it makes the HoP mobile. You gotta ask: "Why does the HoP have to move around?"
While this is an easy answer... you gotta ask yourself this:
"How badly can this be abused?"

And it turns out pretty badly. Since now the HoP can change permissions with ease from somewhere else.
So now his PDA is high value for traitors and gangs. They are gonna kill the HoP, steal their PDA and that request console gets copied over and over to give anyone they want AA.

Also since it's a PDA App, guess who else can now change access? The AI, send the program to the AI and let them do all the work. Subsume AI and now you got a stealth ID changer. Infact... since it's a PDA program.. anyone can technically do it with a modified PDA if they can get their hands on the program.
Now you take the request console with someone with Engineering tools... and you can see how crazy it gets.

Heck they will steal his SPARE PDA as well... and what about the captain? Don't they get this tool as well since they gotta do HoP work if they aren't there?

Essentially this problem of "wanting access" is not a problem on high pop servers. You can just get someone else to let you in.
The only reason you want access changes is cause: "No one is there" or "you are moving departments." or "some sort of gimmick."

I understand the problem you have with HoP's being stuck in their post most of the time. But... most HoPs only need to do like 5-10 mins of ID changing and the rest of the time they can loiter around. Mostly 30 mins into the shift, no one needs an ID change unless the HoP is doing a roleplay gimmick or someone needs to be demoted for being a crimer.
This argumentation I can't really relate to. The captain is also a high value target, but that doesn't mean we make his tools unavailable. I think the HoP having a target on his head is a good thing (arguably he already has one). I don't understand what you're saying here. People already kill the HoP to gain AA, they can already just grab an infinite amount of spare cards and hand out AA. Yes, they have to be physically present for that. And this part doesn't wholly change, you still need someone physically inserting the ID into the computer at the HoP office.

You focused really hard on the PDA thing, but in my post I distinctly suggested it could be its own device, negating most of what you said.

Even on high pop servers you sometimes have a busy captain and a missing HoP.

I never understand why we defend the idea of having a role whose sole purpose is "obsolescence after X minutes", if that is truly the case, why aren't we just removing HoP altogether? I'm trying to find ways to have the HoP be a relevant role that can function as a Head of Department without having to be bound to an office.
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Access Request Console - by Glamurio - 04-13-2024, 05:33 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by Kotlol - 04-13-2024, 06:58 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by Glamurio - 04-13-2024, 09:23 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by meaow589 - 04-13-2024, 09:02 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by glowbold - 04-13-2024, 09:31 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by Cal - 04-13-2024, 12:39 PM
RE: Access Request Console - by Kotlol - 04-13-2024, 02:56 PM
RE: Access Request Console - by BadShot - 04-13-2024, 01:09 PM
RE: Access Request Console - by Cleaverwolf - 04-13-2024, 08:33 PM
RE: Access Request Console - by Kotlol - 04-14-2024, 03:03 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by Rmeaper - 04-14-2024, 05:18 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by Kotlol - 04-14-2024, 05:59 AM
RE: Access Request Console - by BadShot - 04-15-2024, 03:22 PM

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