Goonhub
12-09-2023, 07:10 PM
on its face this has many negative repercussions:
* pre-scanning for risky adventures or known high-value targets is now impossible; people won't be as willing to go on azone trips if the many ways you can get cheaply killed now mean you're gone forever
* the only roles that get disks are security. this could lead to people picking security solely for the disks on classic
* gibbing is effectively made a trivial way to perma-remove someone as there is no body to clone
some random thoughts:
* this goes for the other pr, but after having some time to think about it, i do not like the other proposed change to the cloner
* mostly i think that it is okay where it is. when i observe and track it i typically see 0~6 clones and they're often not all unique people. on rp people die a lot less, but on classic it's pretty balanced for where it is.
* i think that some changes to the death alert could be nice. make the implant audibly beep on death the same way that microbombs click, as an audible signal that the person has a cloner record.
* one comedy option: give clones 2~4m mute status so they can't talk. keeps them from immediately ratting out how they died.
* i would like to see more subtle ways of fucking with genetics. make it so that the dna / mind fields are editable and you can swap appearances and minds in the scan. overwrite everyone's scan with yours. bonus: some way get it stuck outputing one body appearance. maybe you just need med/sci level to do that instead of deleting. i mean, it is science
* some other suggestions that came up involved making scans only saved on disks, which would end up seen as a nerf for borgs/ai (no longer able to clone without help, whereas now they can at least aid in scanning the living)
* or doing this, but adding a separate "filing cabinet" type thing to hold cloner disks, which just kind of turns something into pointless busywork (instead of pushing a button, you have to push a different button that lets you get the thing you need to push another button)
shrub
the longer cloner time could work, say it's because it's faster to copy from tissue than a record in lore or whatever.
* pre-scanning for risky adventures or known high-value targets is now impossible; people won't be as willing to go on azone trips if the many ways you can get cheaply killed now mean you're gone forever
* the only roles that get disks are security. this could lead to people picking security solely for the disks on classic
* gibbing is effectively made a trivial way to perma-remove someone as there is no body to clone
some random thoughts:
* this goes for the other pr, but after having some time to think about it, i do not like the other proposed change to the cloner
* mostly i think that it is okay where it is. when i observe and track it i typically see 0~6 clones and they're often not all unique people. on rp people die a lot less, but on classic it's pretty balanced for where it is.
* i think that some changes to the death alert could be nice. make the implant audibly beep on death the same way that microbombs click, as an audible signal that the person has a cloner record.
* one comedy option: give clones 2~4m mute status so they can't talk. keeps them from immediately ratting out how they died.
* i would like to see more subtle ways of fucking with genetics. make it so that the dna / mind fields are editable and you can swap appearances and minds in the scan. overwrite everyone's scan with yours. bonus: some way get it stuck outputing one body appearance. maybe you just need med/sci level to do that instead of deleting. i mean, it is science
* some other suggestions that came up involved making scans only saved on disks, which would end up seen as a nerf for borgs/ai (no longer able to clone without help, whereas now they can at least aid in scanning the living)
* or doing this, but adding a separate "filing cabinet" type thing to hold cloner disks, which just kind of turns something into pointless busywork (instead of pushing a button, you have to push a different button that lets you get the thing you need to push another button)
shrub
the longer cloner time could work, say it's because it's faster to copy from tissue than a record in lore or whatever.