10-29-2023, 01:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-29-2023, 01:53 PM by Lord_earthfire. Edited 2 times in total.)
(10-29-2023, 01:16 PM)Ikea Wrote: Uhh, being in near crit and heavily slowed down next to a ling is an incredibly large downside especially if the ling is like, mildly aggressive. Like, if youre a ling you should at the very least, have a fire extingusher or something else to deal damage and pay attention to your victim in case they run away. Good luck getting away from a ling on 20 hp whose out for blood and mildly aware. Also thinking of things in terms of general/specific counters is just a boring way to think about the game, counters shouldnt be ranked they should be situational. Smelling salts has a niche as is with current balance because its incredibly easy to get your hands on with the vending nanomed,. Calomel being overall stronger, is fine because calomel you have to raid medbay/a chemdispenser to get, while smelling salts you just need 100 credits. (Not opposed to making calomel recipe harder).
Also personally I think hunchback being higher purging rate and far less purging per healing then calomel is a bad thing. Id like it to be made more damaging that way it stands out more.
I see where you are coming from, but i also think that bringing calomel to a 1v1 against a ling should maybe not be a valid strategy. I can fully understand utilizing it when you go in with multiple people and prepare for an abomination, where others can fight it while you crawl your way back to patch up and engage again. Or when you know there is a ling and you can call in people to help you. Then you can go paralyzed for a few seconds as well until the rest is purged out, because the rest will help you.
I think seperating between specific and general counters should not be the only measure, but being a general counter is a major upside we should not underestimate. You can carry around a calomel autoinjector or syringe in general. Calomel helps against sleepypens, chemsmoke, ling stings, the MONSTER eating contest. And smelling salts does only help against one of them. This means in general you are more likely to carry around a calomel autoinjector and only get the smelling salt when you really, really need it against a ling or someone drugging with tranquilizers.
A general counter is, by design, not situational. Except when sufficient downsides makes it situational.
I think we disagree on whenever the damage of calomel does to the user makes it situational enough.
But besides that, this whole discussion is kinda turning into a ling discussion without actually talking about if we should just nerf the neurotoxin sting of the ling which is.... weird i guess?