10-29-2023, 11:10 AM
(10-29-2023, 10:42 AM)Ikea Wrote: I dont think this change is effective at promoting sec socialization. I think its unfair to expect secoffs to group up by default, because that sucks for both secoffs and the antags, and if you have a good changeling a lot of the times you dont realize you have a changeling until its too late and half of sec is dead. I think changes making radio more readable and stuff like that would be far more effective when it comes to promoting sec socialization. Also I think promoting socialization on classic is a good goal, but Id rather not do that goal by buffing one of the strongest rampage antags.
While sec grouping up easily sucks, that wasn't what I meant to get at with socialising - what I meant moreso was intermingling with crew, talking to people more - as well as at-the-moment callouts. In my experience, some of the best times as sec have been where, even if I die, people notice enough to get suspicious that something bad happened, because I had been doing a bit of hanging-out and talking to others earlier.
I also don't intend at all to just be promoting sec socialisation, but socialisation across the board. I'm glad we agree on it being a good goal, even if we disagree on this being a good way to approach it; I definitely support other changes to that end like radio readability being easier, as you mention.
Going to step away and work on some other stuff and mull over this PR and your points, so don't expect any further response, but I would like to thank you for making the points you have made.