On the subject of RP Security Officer access

[Cherman0]

and perhaps some small (5 round?) timelocks should be set for command to ensure a minimal bar of responsability.

Captain does actually require 30 rounds played beforehand, but I feel like I could support a requirement to play at least 1 round in each subordinate department before playing a department head and say, 5 rounds total before you can play command roles in general.

I still don't believe that cutting away security's access wouldn't encourage RP, since the issue isn't security. Security already RPs in the bar, in the general hallways, the sec front desk, during arrests, etc... The issue is the people inside of the said departments, that spend all 90 minutes in the department without going out not even once (in particularly thinking about science, genetics and robotics, the 3 main areas it is aimed to cut away security's access).

I... dont necessarily agree with this. Broadly I agree that yes, people who make no effort to connect with other people cant really expect everyone else to deliver RP to them. But I also feel that one of the greatest potential RP scenarios that the game offers is situational roleplay: ie your character reacting to relevant events as they unfold. But for that to take place, events have to both

* Happen
* Effect people

And security having a large degree of independence from the civilian population in terms of how they respond to threats limits how much those threats tend to get other people rolled into them. In my view this is one of the major reasons that people complain that antags dont really antagonize anyone except security. Its also worth noting that security officers who chat up people in the halls and bar and whatnot are still doing their jobs, since patrolling the station and being available to people is under their job purview. But a roboticist who hangs out in the bar isnt getting anything done in terms of their job, which can feel weird in terms of the RP scenario (they presumably are paying you to get work done) and encourages people to stick to the locations that they have job mechanics for.