Goonhub
10-18-2023, 03:53 PM
The wiki gives two conflicting accounts of whether the Captain or the Head of Security normally has the greater authority over security. The Head of Security page says that the Head of Security always has priority in security matters:
In addition, Security Officer's page says -
However, the definite resource on the chain of command, found on the AI's guide to the chain of command, places the Captain above the Head of Security (as opposed to how, for example, the HoS and HoP are in the same "level" and get priority depending on whether it is a security matter or not):
Between the two, the admin ruling I have seen is that the latter is correct; however, I don't wish to put any specific examples for two reasons. First, the nature of a "call" in this sort of matter, especially on Discord or in-the-moment means that the admin may not intend, or at least not long-term intend, for their statement to be pointed to as a definitive ruling. Second, not using specific examples helps any admins considering the matter not get overly attached to one perspective or the other.
With all that considered, I'd like to propose two things:
A quick fix of removing that paragraph from the HoS page and sentence from the Security Officer page, or at least a clarification that fits in-line with how it is now.
A slightly bigger fix clarifying this sort of thing in the chain of command section. Maybe even make a whole new page about the chain of command, since it currently only being on the AI page implies it's a silicon-only thing, when I have seen it be heavily implied or stated to also be a thing to at least keep in mind on the Roleplay servers.
Although this is on the forums everyone can comment on, I'd like to ask that responses are largely in the realm of an official stance being put forward, or the go-ahead to do something to remedy the contradiction on the wiki. Not that I completely disregard the place of player input, but this does largely seem like an administrative choice to make; if I wasn't encouraged to put it on the forums (I assume for visibility), I likely would have just put this in through [report.
Quote:The Captain is higher on the chain of command to the Head of Security. However, although the Captain is the boss of the Head of Security, the Head of Security has the final say only on matters regarding station security and punishments given to criminals. In other words, while other Heads can be overruled by the Captain even when regarding matters of their own department, the Head of Security cannot be overruled when regarding matters of the Security department.
In addition, Security Officer's page says -
Quote:LISTEN TO THE HEAD OF SECURITY ABOVE ALL OTHER HEADS OF STAFF.
However, the definite resource on the chain of command, found on the AI's guide to the chain of command, places the Captain above the Head of Security (as opposed to how, for example, the HoS and HoP are in the same "level" and get priority depending on whether it is a security matter or not):
Quote:When you are given different and/or conflicting orders by different humans and don't know what to do, prioritize and review the orders as according to positions on the chain of command. The chain of command is as follows:
The Captain, and/or anyone referred to as captain by your laws.
The Head of Personnel and Head of Security. Typically speaking, you should give the HoS priority over all security matters and give the HoP authority over everything else.
Between the two, the admin ruling I have seen is that the latter is correct; however, I don't wish to put any specific examples for two reasons. First, the nature of a "call" in this sort of matter, especially on Discord or in-the-moment means that the admin may not intend, or at least not long-term intend, for their statement to be pointed to as a definitive ruling. Second, not using specific examples helps any admins considering the matter not get overly attached to one perspective or the other.
With all that considered, I'd like to propose two things:
A quick fix of removing that paragraph from the HoS page and sentence from the Security Officer page, or at least a clarification that fits in-line with how it is now.
A slightly bigger fix clarifying this sort of thing in the chain of command section. Maybe even make a whole new page about the chain of command, since it currently only being on the AI page implies it's a silicon-only thing, when I have seen it be heavily implied or stated to also be a thing to at least keep in mind on the Roleplay servers.
Although this is on the forums everyone can comment on, I'd like to ask that responses are largely in the realm of an official stance being put forward, or the go-ahead to do something to remedy the contradiction on the wiki. Not that I completely disregard the place of player input, but this does largely seem like an administrative choice to make; if I wasn't encouraged to put it on the forums (I assume for visibility), I likely would have just put this in through [report.