Goonhub
09-04-2023, 09:19 AM
I generally speaking have the take of if a feature at its best is just kinda mediocre and not really enjoyable, and at its worst just ruins rounds, and there's no way to rework it to improve its flaws or dampen its flaws, then why should that be a feature. I think non AI eyebots fall under this category for me.
At its best, its just kinda neat that you can do it, but like its not something anyone would want to do frequently outside of the novelty. Eyebot gameplay is just borg but worse, this works in the context of AI because its designed to compliment AI gameplay, but without that AI gameplay there eyebot is just a more mechanically uninteresting borg. The best case scenario is someone latejoining into an eyebot for a round out of curiosity, having an okay time with it, then just not playing it again because why would they.
At its worst its just kinda an invitation to make borging as punishment worse. Borging already has several flaws as some players really dislike being borgs. If a player has been a massive pain as an antag, a secoff may go "Well, they could be a really big pain as a rogue borg, lets make them into borg but worse".
This isnt exactly a player issue because the player isn't doing anything wrong, playing the game is generally regarded as more fun then not, and like its a punishment, it doesnt need to be the most enjoyable thing in the world. Not to mention the intent of the secoff isnt malicous, theyre just trying to protect the station. By all means they are following the rules, but yet it still leads to negative consequences. Since eyebot without AI is just borg but worse, the person who got "eyebotted" will generally speaking have a less interesting and engaging time then if they were to be playing as a borg.
Best case scenario it leads to someone having a mildly novel but overall mediocre round, worst case scenario it leads to a round being not nearly as interesting as it would be otherwise. I just dont really see the justification for why brain/latejoin eyebots should be a thing.
At its best, its just kinda neat that you can do it, but like its not something anyone would want to do frequently outside of the novelty. Eyebot gameplay is just borg but worse, this works in the context of AI because its designed to compliment AI gameplay, but without that AI gameplay there eyebot is just a more mechanically uninteresting borg. The best case scenario is someone latejoining into an eyebot for a round out of curiosity, having an okay time with it, then just not playing it again because why would they.
At its worst its just kinda an invitation to make borging as punishment worse. Borging already has several flaws as some players really dislike being borgs. If a player has been a massive pain as an antag, a secoff may go "Well, they could be a really big pain as a rogue borg, lets make them into borg but worse".
This isnt exactly a player issue because the player isn't doing anything wrong, playing the game is generally regarded as more fun then not, and like its a punishment, it doesnt need to be the most enjoyable thing in the world. Not to mention the intent of the secoff isnt malicous, theyre just trying to protect the station. By all means they are following the rules, but yet it still leads to negative consequences. Since eyebot without AI is just borg but worse, the person who got "eyebotted" will generally speaking have a less interesting and engaging time then if they were to be playing as a borg.
Best case scenario it leads to someone having a mildly novel but overall mediocre round, worst case scenario it leads to a round being not nearly as interesting as it would be otherwise. I just dont really see the justification for why brain/latejoin eyebots should be a thing.