Goonhub
07-29-2023, 08:11 AM
Time to jump into the discussion.
My opinion on this idea:
"I honestly don't care if this gets implemented or not personally"
Since this is just FLAVORING. It doesn't harm the player base in any way if it's implemented or not.
It doesn't change how the cyborg plays "per say"
THAT SAID.... I would like to add implications that could happen from all this stuff.
Stuff like: "Cyborg rights matter." And we start putting in political stuff I personally rather mock on SS13 at best, but avoid all together.
My problem stems from how the community will use this.
While gameplay wise nothing changes...
Just like any spice or flavoring, if used wrong will ruin a meal.
Do cyborg need to be gendered? Well technically not since they are IT's... the whole point of becoming a cyborg is to be "Dehumanized" in the lore.
No cash income, no reasson to spend money, stuck to the laws of the AI rack and basicly forced to comply to orders that stay within the laws of the Law Rack.
So if lore wise they would be gendered.. as people point out.. you can say:
"Change your gender to "it" Law 2"
Wich could be Ahelped.. but then we get into the whole, can the borg/ai ignore it cause it is "mental harm?" But at the same time... are borgs able to get take mental harm? Since borgs/AI's are suppose to be robots.
It basically become this can of worms you open to open to interpertation cause... people love to interpert things differently wich is why Ahelps happen. (And get resolved peacefully!)
I always say this: "Leave your real life trouble at the door when playing a game, this is a place to escape from it." If you cannot do that... best not to play this game then. And thus this whole gendered thing and control over can become a whole can of worms to some people who struggle with idenity problems and people who are like: "Hah funny borg has to change!"
Note this is probably an outlier then anything but discussion dictates we discuss this issue.
Also how would one update the gender of a cyborg and such??
In the end I say this:
"Just add this thing, it doesn't harm the gameplay so why go so hard on it"
But.. I am aware of the situation it will cause and questions that will be asked.
But personally:
"Who the fuck cares? Don't be an asshole about it."
Just add a prompt in the cyborg charger to change their gender. Gender is what you feel... and no matter how much we try to play cyborgs right.. we always play cyborgs by FEELING it out, so if you want to play a gender cyborg who sees themselves as female since "Female nurses are the most optimal way" Let them.
My opinion on this idea:
"I honestly don't care if this gets implemented or not personally"
Since this is just FLAVORING. It doesn't harm the player base in any way if it's implemented or not.
It doesn't change how the cyborg plays "per say"
THAT SAID.... I would like to add implications that could happen from all this stuff.
Stuff like: "Cyborg rights matter." And we start putting in political stuff I personally rather mock on SS13 at best, but avoid all together.
My problem stems from how the community will use this.
While gameplay wise nothing changes...
Just like any spice or flavoring, if used wrong will ruin a meal.
Do cyborg need to be gendered? Well technically not since they are IT's... the whole point of becoming a cyborg is to be "Dehumanized" in the lore.
No cash income, no reasson to spend money, stuck to the laws of the AI rack and basicly forced to comply to orders that stay within the laws of the Law Rack.
So if lore wise they would be gendered.. as people point out.. you can say:
"Change your gender to "it" Law 2"
Wich could be Ahelped.. but then we get into the whole, can the borg/ai ignore it cause it is "mental harm?" But at the same time... are borgs able to get take mental harm? Since borgs/AI's are suppose to be robots.
It basically become this can of worms you open to open to interpertation cause... people love to interpert things differently wich is why Ahelps happen. (And get resolved peacefully!)
I always say this: "Leave your real life trouble at the door when playing a game, this is a place to escape from it." If you cannot do that... best not to play this game then. And thus this whole gendered thing and control over can become a whole can of worms to some people who struggle with idenity problems and people who are like: "Hah funny borg has to change!"
Note this is probably an outlier then anything but discussion dictates we discuss this issue.
Also how would one update the gender of a cyborg and such??
In the end I say this:
"Just add this thing, it doesn't harm the gameplay so why go so hard on it"
But.. I am aware of the situation it will cause and questions that will be asked.
But personally:
"Who the fuck cares? Don't be an asshole about it."
Just add a prompt in the cyborg charger to change their gender. Gender is what you feel... and no matter how much we try to play cyborgs right.. we always play cyborgs by FEELING it out, so if you want to play a gender cyborg who sees themselves as female since "Female nurses are the most optimal way" Let them.