Goonhub
07-15-2023, 12:08 AM
Manually emagging cyber organs is far to easy. Recently ive seen it be done constantly and in terms of stun res and to some degree the healing, having full Emagged cyber organs literally is just infinite stims, which for a traitor is fine. But even just having a emagged cyber pancreas means you get a HUGE stamina buff that just makes dealing with you as a antagonist impossible. Its being powergamed almost every round by people. Items such as the trophy belt, light engineering suit, toxin skinpen mixes, sorium, magboots. While they are all Horrible and annoying to deal with they atleast all have basic counters (tho the toxin skinpen mixes are actually quite OP but thats off topic) whereas a antag whos going against someone with emagged cyber organs would have to get the EMP rifle from armoury in order to get them or have such strong lethals that they instant die, because stuns aint gonna work.
Also in terms of reducing a roboticists ability to play. Idk I dont play RP, but on classic roboticist traitors almost exclusively go robotic conversion chamber, and people who get full emagged cyber organs are usually just random people, not roboticists. I dont even see the emagged cyber organs as a medical thing, since its usually random people who arent in the medical department who get it.
also HELL NO! 1 TC item to emag cyber organs. HAHAHHA, I would pay 12 TC for emagged cyber organs. You know how absolutely insane they are? as I said earlier literally infinite stims, even a EMP on them doesnt instantly kill them. On top of that if you just carry bojacks on you constantly you literally have infinite omnizine. so you can heal your organ damage (and other damage) very quickly. Chems dont even work on you because you can instant purge them. You cant be stunned because of how high your stamina and stam regen and stun res is. You heal naturally extremely quick anyway. and on top of that if we give them cyber limbs, they can break cuffs so not even a quick cuff can beat then. Its CRAZY how broken full Emagged cyber organs are. As ill say at the end, I do like the idea of a traitor item explicitly for emagged cyber organs, but I feel like emagged cyber organs are in a spot right now where they are in alot of ways just better stims. I would say I would like it to be a 6 TC item but I have a feeling people would somehow suggest that prices is to high.
Overall, I dont mind Emagged cyber organs for traitors despite me stating how OP they are since it takes ages to put through and requires someone to help you for the heart (Which if done by someone inexperienced can just kill you). but as a non antag gaming 1 or 2 of them every round in order to gain significant stamina buffs to make dealing with you by a antagonist is just a bit to OP for my liking.
in a Ideal world, emag shouldnt upgrade things, it should downgrade them. Then give the medical department a new traitor item that just upgrades them in the same way the EMAG does now. I find it weird how the EMAG which is being used to disrupt systems is MASSIVELY upgrading these organs. so emagging cyber organs should do sabotaging stuff, like releasing toxin or something or slowly killing them, or giving them heart attacks etc. Like in every other use of the EMAG it breaks locks, overrides systems. not giving organs random buffs, like how can Emagging a cyber liver make it produce omnizine? why would that be something that it doesnt have in the first place, why would we need to break or bypass a system for that to be used?
Also in terms of reducing a roboticists ability to play. Idk I dont play RP, but on classic roboticist traitors almost exclusively go robotic conversion chamber, and people who get full emagged cyber organs are usually just random people, not roboticists. I dont even see the emagged cyber organs as a medical thing, since its usually random people who arent in the medical department who get it.
also HELL NO! 1 TC item to emag cyber organs. HAHAHHA, I would pay 12 TC for emagged cyber organs. You know how absolutely insane they are? as I said earlier literally infinite stims, even a EMP on them doesnt instantly kill them. On top of that if you just carry bojacks on you constantly you literally have infinite omnizine. so you can heal your organ damage (and other damage) very quickly. Chems dont even work on you because you can instant purge them. You cant be stunned because of how high your stamina and stam regen and stun res is. You heal naturally extremely quick anyway. and on top of that if we give them cyber limbs, they can break cuffs so not even a quick cuff can beat then. Its CRAZY how broken full Emagged cyber organs are. As ill say at the end, I do like the idea of a traitor item explicitly for emagged cyber organs, but I feel like emagged cyber organs are in a spot right now where they are in alot of ways just better stims. I would say I would like it to be a 6 TC item but I have a feeling people would somehow suggest that prices is to high.
Overall, I dont mind Emagged cyber organs for traitors despite me stating how OP they are since it takes ages to put through and requires someone to help you for the heart (Which if done by someone inexperienced can just kill you). but as a non antag gaming 1 or 2 of them every round in order to gain significant stamina buffs to make dealing with you by a antagonist is just a bit to OP for my liking.
in a Ideal world, emag shouldnt upgrade things, it should downgrade them. Then give the medical department a new traitor item that just upgrades them in the same way the EMAG does now. I find it weird how the EMAG which is being used to disrupt systems is MASSIVELY upgrading these organs. so emagging cyber organs should do sabotaging stuff, like releasing toxin or something or slowly killing them, or giving them heart attacks etc. Like in every other use of the EMAG it breaks locks, overrides systems. not giving organs random buffs, like how can Emagging a cyber liver make it produce omnizine? why would that be something that it doesnt have in the first place, why would we need to break or bypass a system for that to be used?