06-25-2023, 05:11 PM
(06-25-2023, 03:30 PM)kaspok Wrote: If you are a secoff and you see a row of lube tiles what do you do?
Use a beaker of carbon to end the lube's effects.
I think the existence of weapons that antags can use without spending TC is important, and that lube of either kind is a valid part of that toolbox. It helps significantly on the axis of allowing an antag to overcome a singular unprepared opponent; while harmlube can affect multiple people at once, the stun is short enough that you don't have as much gain if sec/a mob is coming after you.
It being countered effectively by carbon also makes it part of the ecosystem of threat and response, which imo is pretty important for security and antags to have; security has tools they probably don't have on-hand to deal with a given issue (cloakers/thermals are another example), so the antag has a temporary advantage they need to make the most of before they get countered.
Overall, I think the ability to "bait a secoff into a chase, slip them, and then steal whatever stun item they had in their hands" is a good thing to exist, not something that should be mechanically erased as a possibility.