05-05-2023, 05:08 AM
(05-05-2023, 01:53 AM)Silent Majority Wrote: we HAVE the smoke launchers which work just as well as CC without being NEARLY as long lasting punishing or disruptive for free with 12 shots at round start. I feel like a flashbang is a good disrupting a fighter situation, where as a CC just shuts down and acts as a noobie track so is almost better served as an EMERGENCY tool then a standard issue tool. Hell if its nukies for example flashbangs do almost nothing to them anyway. or if they have the mikitary headsets, DO do nothing.
Exactly and smoke is ALREADY pretty annoying as are FOG grenades. (Like really those are essentially just very annoying and more an antag item then security one)
But Capu grenades are 10 times worst and if all of security rolls it... well you get it.
It's why I am fine with it being in armory and more limited. Security only deals with groups of antags if:
- A traitor goes with a lot mind hacks.
- Revolutionaries.
- Gangs (but they fight eachother more then security)
- Flock (but they are immune anyway)
- Wraith Summons (Same goes as flock)
- Admeme.
- A round with a lot of cyborgs and an antag goes to make em go rogue.
- Nukies.
And only 5 of those have humanoids.. with 2 of them going into high numbers. Aka the only 2 where it mostly applies. Wich is Revo's and Admeme. Nukies are high number but they are MOSTLY immune and you have all of the crew helping you too... throwing a capsu grenade is basicly more crippling for your team in the long run.
Gangs are too busy going at eachothers throat then raiding security with their fellow gangs so while it can happen... by then security is more then ready.
And Admeme is admeme, no one can prepare for admeme.
And before you say Vampires with their thralls...I will say that's very rare and thralls tend to not care about capsu since they will punch you then use tools or guns.
While the vampire might be effected by it. A thrall army didn't hit the cut for me. But if it does.. yes Capsu grenades are gonna be added to the list, but I honestly doubt Vampires can make that many thralls to warrant it before being caught.