Thoughts on demotion/clothing swapouts by Security

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In my experience, Security is very happy with trying to levy demotion as a penalty for crime(s), and they often do it without consulting the Captain. Demoting someone totally screws all their access for the entire round. Not a fan of this idea.

Within a single round it doesn't happen a lot, if at all, and it wouldn't stop someone from still going to the HoP's. Someone is still welcome to go back to the HoP's if someone is there to get their ID changed to a department they want, unless they were removed from that department for security reasons.

Otherwise though, there would just be a few of these, not a lot, in the dispenser, to discourage doing it more than necessary.

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I do agree that security having "Fresh civilian clothes" is an Okay as is an empty backpack.
Not only cause it's just easier to give someone something you know doesn't have contraband, but ALSO for security OPs where they go civilian mode aka incognito.
Or having it so they can change out of shift to hit the bar.

So I am A-okay with security having "Civilian clothing" in their department too. I am not Okay with the ID system addition nor headset ones.
THOUGH I think the HoP should have an easier time getting the right headsets, IDs and PDAs!

This would be just for demotion reasons for making it faster, if a security member is wanting to switch to civilian clothing I think it'd really be best if they went to the HoP's or find another clothing manufacturer, which nothing is stopping them from doing

I think security should not demote. That's the job of command. I would only add a dispenser like this to the bridge, locked by command access.

In general, we kinda got the problem of security overruling most of command and hsving more authority over the rest of the crew. While this is a completely different cultural issue, we really should not enforce it.

Maybe I didn't consider RP as much, but at least on classic if there's a traitor captain using their access and headset to avoid security and do things like rogue the AI, or someone using AA they have to do other bad things, regardless of command giving input you'd want to demote them. Demotion in this case isn't restricted to just existing command members but also crew who have access/headset/etc that they shouldn't have

How about a walk in booth like the gene booth that swaps your uniform and backpack, possibly headset aswell, and then spits out the old stuff either in the HoP office or just next to the booth

Would likely be located outside HoP

Booths controls would be operate by the HoP

Contents of pockets and backpack would/should stay the shame

Agreed that would be nice, but I think it maybe runs into the issue of it being 'too easy'. Also, by having it located by the HoP it doesn't resolve the issue that's intended to be solved, which is something within the security department to make demotions quicker.