Goonhub
01-16-2023, 06:01 AM
Since this is general discussion and not RP. I will tell you what I can.
1st up: "Goon does not support the term shitsec"
It's something that is heavily frowned upon to use, so don't use that term anymore.
Insted I will call em "SecJerks"
SuperCops are those who baton 1st and will chase you without warning. If they think you are guilty, they will make sure you do not get a chance to kill em.
I do not mind these as much if they have a reason to hunt me like evidence. But they can be really degrading in RP.
In Classic on the other hand? SuperCops are needed due to the chaos and multiplue rampaging antags. They don't have time to deal with your chaos, cause a "Blob" is invading as well as a "Wizard" rampaging. Things that need to be solved ASAP or else the station goes boom. So your lil bomb planning is thwarted immidently.
As for SecJerks. I play a SecJerk from time to time. Aka a security member who will arrest you and push you and show how much ego they have in RP, but only if it comes to it. It causes fun friction and interactions with players.
As Lord_earthfire says... If they ban weed , you just grow omega weed. Wich causes Sec to set up a Drug Den Raid wich is all kinds of hilarious!
This is why I as captain sometimes ban drugs so departments will start pranking or causing smaller issues for security so security has something to do on RP then just looking for 1-3 antags.
Validhunters (aka non sec ones) are litterly illegal on RP. On Classic they are "tolerated" I heard (Admins correct me if im wrong), due to the fact if they don't act quickly, security MIGHT not make it in time and massive damage is done.
On RP it's 100% illegal to validhunt a player. If a staffy sees you with contraband, it doesn't allow them to detain you or beat you to a pulp.
If they do this, Ahelp it.
You may however defend yourself from an antagonist or assist someone being murdered by an antagonist.
BUT YOU CANNOT START MURDERING SOMEONE FOR HAVING ANTAGONISTIC TRAITS.
Under that same reason... Security MAY NOT arrest Antags for being Antags.
If someone reveals themselves to be a vampire on RP. Security CANNOT throw them into the brig for being one. The vampire HAS to commit a crime or about to commit a crime to do that.
There is a reason Security is much more lax and slower on RP. Cause they have to talk and such and behave like good police officers (or bad ones) and not run in and baton someone who's set to arrest.
Even if Security knows you done a crime, if they come in to your place when you aren't commiting a crime and baton you. Ahelp it.
That said, if an antagonist walks up to you with a gun and kills you, Ahelp it too on RP. As there was no escalation.
Antags on RP have the same rule of escalation as security. If they ignore this rule, so will Security.
I even executed players who just kept antagging the moment they step out of the brig.
So yea.. SuperCops on Classic are very much okay, Validhunters on classic aren't as much but on RP is forbidden, SecJerks are okay on RP as long as it's a charater, on classic it's "tolerated" but in both aspects it just means you have more reasons to prank and annoy em.
1st up: "Goon does not support the term shitsec"
It's something that is heavily frowned upon to use, so don't use that term anymore.
Insted I will call em "SecJerks"
SuperCops are those who baton 1st and will chase you without warning. If they think you are guilty, they will make sure you do not get a chance to kill em.
I do not mind these as much if they have a reason to hunt me like evidence. But they can be really degrading in RP.
In Classic on the other hand? SuperCops are needed due to the chaos and multiplue rampaging antags. They don't have time to deal with your chaos, cause a "Blob" is invading as well as a "Wizard" rampaging. Things that need to be solved ASAP or else the station goes boom. So your lil bomb planning is thwarted immidently.
As for SecJerks. I play a SecJerk from time to time. Aka a security member who will arrest you and push you and show how much ego they have in RP, but only if it comes to it. It causes fun friction and interactions with players.
As Lord_earthfire says... If they ban weed , you just grow omega weed. Wich causes Sec to set up a Drug Den Raid wich is all kinds of hilarious!
This is why I as captain sometimes ban drugs so departments will start pranking or causing smaller issues for security so security has something to do on RP then just looking for 1-3 antags.
Validhunters (aka non sec ones) are litterly illegal on RP. On Classic they are "tolerated" I heard (Admins correct me if im wrong), due to the fact if they don't act quickly, security MIGHT not make it in time and massive damage is done.
On RP it's 100% illegal to validhunt a player. If a staffy sees you with contraband, it doesn't allow them to detain you or beat you to a pulp.
If they do this, Ahelp it.
You may however defend yourself from an antagonist or assist someone being murdered by an antagonist.
BUT YOU CANNOT START MURDERING SOMEONE FOR HAVING ANTAGONISTIC TRAITS.
Under that same reason... Security MAY NOT arrest Antags for being Antags.
If someone reveals themselves to be a vampire on RP. Security CANNOT throw them into the brig for being one. The vampire HAS to commit a crime or about to commit a crime to do that.
There is a reason Security is much more lax and slower on RP. Cause they have to talk and such and behave like good police officers (or bad ones) and not run in and baton someone who's set to arrest.
Even if Security knows you done a crime, if they come in to your place when you aren't commiting a crime and baton you. Ahelp it.
That said, if an antagonist walks up to you with a gun and kills you, Ahelp it too on RP. As there was no escalation.
Antags on RP have the same rule of escalation as security. If they ignore this rule, so will Security.
I even executed players who just kept antagging the moment they step out of the brig.
So yea.. SuperCops on Classic are very much okay, Validhunters on classic aren't as much but on RP is forbidden, SecJerks are okay on RP as long as it's a charater, on classic it's "tolerated" but in both aspects it just means you have more reasons to prank and annoy em.