Addition of s example to the slur/hatespeech rule.

[Kotlol]

yeah, the bad word rules are a bit silly, like, one time i got banned for saying the cigarette word, accidentally, and even when i corrected myself by saying it was a common word where i am (scotland), i still got slapped with a 3 day ban. it was appealed into a 1 day, but still, it's just a tad bit silly.

They aren't silly, slurs are pretty nasty and should be avoided, but as etymological entities they are heavily bound to cultural context. A slur is much more than just a "bad word". They are extensions of the will to oppress various marginalized groups, shunning, shaming and "reminding of X place in social hierarchy". Slurs being recognised as horrible fuck no's is an important part of overcoming discrimination, both overt and casual. They are also tied to violence said marginalized group faces or had faced in the past and are an implicit threat, when the bigot is beating you with a stick what words are they screaming do you think? It's hard to get it if you've never belonged to a marginalized group but this is important context to know why they matter.

Yea but that's the problem of this topic's discussion....

You are now saying Slurs shouldn't be said in the server.. despite what different cultures have meaning to similiar words.

We are allowed to curse on Goonstation. I can say FUCK all I want. But can't say slurs due to things meaning in culture.
But at the same time.. if all slurs are wrong.. we are pushing a grey area into a "this is wrong area"
And we gotta ask at the same time where do we draw the line.
If I say a Slur in another language... is that fair game? I mean if the admins don't understand my slur then what?
Or what if a word spelled in 1 language like English... means a slur in another?

While I think discretion is fine, the thing we have to note is that goonstation has "international" appeal.
So there needs to be abit more "clarity" on the slur and hate speech side.

After all the "Cigarette" issue may come from a place of ignorance.. it's unlikely but possible. But that's hypothetical.

And last but not least... what if I use an ancient slur? Something that is seemed goofy this day and age? Or make up a slur?

Like calling you a "PEASANT" as a "CEO" is slurring afterall...

This is what I mean with it being a greyline and you showing it's a "No zone" but a blanketed "NO ZONE"

But what this topic really is asking is: "Can the greyline be abit more clearly"

As for the incident that incited this debate.. (as in the original bannee), that guy can go F off for all I care.