Goonhub
09-29-2022, 02:17 PM
I might be parroting Waffle's points a bit here, but i do think the recent changes in how interactions between security/the crew and antags should interact seem to have played a part in why things are the way they are.
As of late, i've seen a lot of people either pushing antags at a very vast pace or just shutting them down altogether. Don't get me wrong, i don't enjoy "5 katana dudes TM playing MONO with the sec team", but as of late most of what i see are either completely silent antags that hide away most of the round in a way that while safe for them, doesn't get the round anywhere, or going VERY loud very fast, which leaves little in the way of roleplay. As said before, the third way a lot of antags seem to act is by only revealing themselves to those they already meta know and trust to not instantly shut them down, which isn't good for obvious reasons, while it tends to create good quality RP between the meta group, it leaves everyone else out..
For me, the reason we see even more both friendly antags who end up doing nothing all round and antags that either don't RP or selectively RP with their friend group has a lot to do with folks not feeling like they can really place their trust in the sec teams or even in the general crew to work together in creating fun roleplay scenarios. Antags are the driving force of many rounds, and it's very bad that they are currently mostly being confined to meta groups, which leaves most of the players out of their interaction. Stealthy antags and all out antags are both fine and fun, but going out of your way to only interact with your meta friends out of fear of being instantly shut down or jumping over all the RP because you can't risk it is definitely detrimental to the round, and i think the way people are currently feel expected to act fosters these behaviors.
As of late, i've seen a lot of people either pushing antags at a very vast pace or just shutting them down altogether. Don't get me wrong, i don't enjoy "5 katana dudes TM playing MONO with the sec team", but as of late most of what i see are either completely silent antags that hide away most of the round in a way that while safe for them, doesn't get the round anywhere, or going VERY loud very fast, which leaves little in the way of roleplay. As said before, the third way a lot of antags seem to act is by only revealing themselves to those they already meta know and trust to not instantly shut them down, which isn't good for obvious reasons, while it tends to create good quality RP between the meta group, it leaves everyone else out..
For me, the reason we see even more both friendly antags who end up doing nothing all round and antags that either don't RP or selectively RP with their friend group has a lot to do with folks not feeling like they can really place their trust in the sec teams or even in the general crew to work together in creating fun roleplay scenarios. Antags are the driving force of many rounds, and it's very bad that they are currently mostly being confined to meta groups, which leaves most of the players out of their interaction. Stealthy antags and all out antags are both fine and fun, but going out of your way to only interact with your meta friends out of fear of being instantly shut down or jumping over all the RP because you can't risk it is definitely detrimental to the round, and i think the way people are currently feel expected to act fosters these behaviors.