Goonhub
09-18-2013, 09:47 AM
My 2c, for what it's worth, i've read the entire thread.
I believe what winterous did was pretty wrong and against the spirit of the game, but whether it was a clear and utter breach of goon rules that deserved a job-ban is of question, but that's not for me to decide.
The AI laws are made to be ambiguous for this reason, but ambiguity doesn't defend against a borg being a total dick. To clarify, security who aren't bound to any strict laws have every right to murder a traitor once caught because they are essentially free game, but most don't because it really goes against the spirit of goon, which when it all boils down to it all is fun really. Being a ghost ain't too fun. Leaving the dude to suffocate isn't fun.
You said that he was a traitor, if he was trying to kill you while suffocating himself, then you could invoke law 3 and leave him there but that didn't happen. He was unconscious and didn't demand to be let out, so law 2 didn't come into play.
You acted to save him, then chose not to. You argue that if you never started saving him in the first place then the outcome would've been the same but the whole point is that they are two total different scenarios and you chose the former, the wrong one.
I sympathize with you however, I don't really believe what happened to both players was particularly fair, and this could've been avoided if the wiki be updated.
I believe what winterous did was pretty wrong and against the spirit of the game, but whether it was a clear and utter breach of goon rules that deserved a job-ban is of question, but that's not for me to decide.
The AI laws are made to be ambiguous for this reason, but ambiguity doesn't defend against a borg being a total dick. To clarify, security who aren't bound to any strict laws have every right to murder a traitor once caught because they are essentially free game, but most don't because it really goes against the spirit of goon, which when it all boils down to it all is fun really. Being a ghost ain't too fun. Leaving the dude to suffocate isn't fun.
You said that he was a traitor, if he was trying to kill you while suffocating himself, then you could invoke law 3 and leave him there but that didn't happen. He was unconscious and didn't demand to be let out, so law 2 didn't come into play.
You acted to save him, then chose not to. You argue that if you never started saving him in the first place then the outcome would've been the same but the whole point is that they are two total different scenarios and you chose the former, the wrong one.
I sympathize with you however, I don't really believe what happened to both players was particularly fair, and this could've been avoided if the wiki be updated.