Goonhub
07-04-2022, 05:31 AM
(This post was last modified: 07-04-2022, 05:35 AM by TDHooligan. Edited 3 times in total.)
Monkeys can still hop tables and easily worsen most player-facing roles. Greytiding monkeys are awful and them being 'fair game to murder' doesn't mean they'll just sit still while you bash their head in. I'm against monkeys being regular occurrences overall.
For example, breaking in a wall/door/window to get at something is pretty griefy, but hopping a table to steal stuff is arguably not griefy. Either way though, you end up stealing items that the walls are there for in the first place. The griefy behaviour is in essence, defended by the fact that you didn't have break station equipment to get in. At least right now, getting monkey solely to steal things requires taking an uncommon joke role or getting someone else from genetics to cooperate.
(07-02-2022, 03:05 PM)JulyJade Wrote: If a player is griefing, that is not necessarily an issue with the race they are playing as - it is an issue with them and their behaviour.Except it is. the line on griefing between players is not a hard line, and since you don't do anything explicitly griefy by hopping a table, players will just pick monkey so they dont have to ask for anything from any department.
For example, breaking in a wall/door/window to get at something is pretty griefy, but hopping a table to steal stuff is arguably not griefy. Either way though, you end up stealing items that the walls are there for in the first place. The griefy behaviour is in essence, defended by the fact that you didn't have break station equipment to get in. At least right now, getting monkey solely to steal things requires taking an uncommon joke role or getting someone else from genetics to cooperate.