Goonhub
05-29-2022, 04:31 PM
I'm simply going to share the PM exchange. I dont see a reason to appeal this ban since the same admin who dishes the bans out also handles the appeal. Im surely not the first person to point out how this is a flawed system.
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Admin PM from Cal: Hey, tone it the fuck down.
Admin PM from Cal: I am aware of what is going on, I'm talking to that player for their rule breaking.
Admin PM from Cal: Why did you demote them?
Reply PM to-Cal: I wasnt planning on demoting them initially. I was gonna give them some brig time after punching an inmate for no reason other than moving, then the HoP said i should demote them instead
Admin PM from Cal: They hit the rancher once and you stunned them and kicked them four times, then forcibly demoted them over it.
Reply PM to-Cal: i am positive you can check the chat log and see that the HoP proposed the demotion. i only followed. as a side point. their general behavior strikes me that they joined as staff assistant without any intention of playing along. im willing to give newbies some slack, but not trolls
Admin PM from Cal: You immediately berated them for telling people "good job, hard worker"?
Reply PM to-Cal: as i was sitting on a chair eating a donut. how is that relevant?
Admin PM from Cal: Ok, so they hit an inmate ONCE, so you stunned them, kicked them while they were down (four times), yanked off all their clothes and demoted them?
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): if you count a sec backpack, a helmet and sunglasses as the entirety of their clothes. then i suppose i did strip them of "all their clothes". also i did not do any demotion. thats the HoPs doing. i only brought them there and took sec equipment. also since you keep bringing up the exact number of punches, im sure you didnt miss the part where they said they were into being hurt since they are, as they said, a machochist. isnt that breaking the strict no sex rule?
Admin PM from Cal: And you didn't ahelp that? Why?
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): the HoP said they'd contact "centcom" implying they would ahelp it. no need to send the same information twice
Admin PM from Cal: No it wasn't sent to us.
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): since i do not see ahelps, i wouldnt have known they didnt do as they said
*10-15 minutes pass*
"You have been banned by cal (Discord). Reason: Tremendously shitty attitude over admin PMs, general toxicity in-game. To try to resolve this matter head to https://forum.ss13.co This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 3 Days."
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Not exactly sure how answering all questions in a clear manner counts as "tremendously shitty attitude" and not putting up with a troll that refuses to understand things explained to them as "general toxicity". Either amend the rules to state the exact manner in which to answer questions or give some admins an ego-check. It's unacceptable behavior for an admin to ban someone out of anger simply because somebody disarmed all other reason to be mad at them. "Tremendously shitty attitude over admin PMs" seems like a cheap cover-all reason to ban someone when you run out of good reasons.
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Admin PM from Cal: Hey, tone it the fuck down.
Admin PM from Cal: I am aware of what is going on, I'm talking to that player for their rule breaking.
Admin PM from Cal: Why did you demote them?
Reply PM to-Cal: I wasnt planning on demoting them initially. I was gonna give them some brig time after punching an inmate for no reason other than moving, then the HoP said i should demote them instead
Admin PM from Cal: They hit the rancher once and you stunned them and kicked them four times, then forcibly demoted them over it.
Reply PM to-Cal: i am positive you can check the chat log and see that the HoP proposed the demotion. i only followed. as a side point. their general behavior strikes me that they joined as staff assistant without any intention of playing along. im willing to give newbies some slack, but not trolls
Admin PM from Cal: You immediately berated them for telling people "good job, hard worker"?
Reply PM to-Cal: as i was sitting on a chair eating a donut. how is that relevant?
Admin PM from Cal: Ok, so they hit an inmate ONCE, so you stunned them, kicked them while they were down (four times), yanked off all their clothes and demoted them?
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): if you count a sec backpack, a helmet and sunglasses as the entirety of their clothes. then i suppose i did strip them of "all their clothes". also i did not do any demotion. thats the HoPs doing. i only brought them there and took sec equipment. also since you keep bringing up the exact number of punches, im sure you didnt miss the part where they said they were into being hurt since they are, as they said, a machochist. isnt that breaking the strict no sex rule?
Admin PM from Cal: And you didn't ahelp that? Why?
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): the HoP said they'd contact "centcom" implying they would ahelp it. no need to send the same information twice
Admin PM from Cal: No it wasn't sent to us.
Admin PM to-cal (Discord): since i do not see ahelps, i wouldnt have known they didnt do as they said
*10-15 minutes pass*
"You have been banned by cal (Discord). Reason: Tremendously shitty attitude over admin PMs, general toxicity in-game. To try to resolve this matter head to https://forum.ss13.co This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in 3 Days."
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Not exactly sure how answering all questions in a clear manner counts as "tremendously shitty attitude" and not putting up with a troll that refuses to understand things explained to them as "general toxicity". Either amend the rules to state the exact manner in which to answer questions or give some admins an ego-check. It's unacceptable behavior for an admin to ban someone out of anger simply because somebody disarmed all other reason to be mad at them. "Tremendously shitty attitude over admin PMs" seems like a cheap cover-all reason to ban someone when you run out of good reasons.