Goonhub
03-22-2022, 11:23 AM
As i see there were public appeals, I will post my appeal that wasnt really ment to be taken as cry for appeal more of a "Is this really the state of the game?"
(all on RP servers)
Hi, I was banned for Injecting multiple people with reinforced mutagenic field as nonantag in 80+ minutes, while being a miscreant whose goal was to make a detective agency, make cases then solve them while blaming security.
Admittedly I had prior warnings which could result in ban, but for some reason this one did it.
Exact ban:"Injecting multiple people with reinforced mutagenic field as nonantag. Multiple notes and warnings. Here's your break."
I did several minor things which were talked thru with an admin, which i tried not to repeat even when i thought they were ridiculous. But now i feel like being scolded for everything while having a RP reasons do them. And it doesnt feel good to secondguess everything you do in character.
I still think that its not good RP to pretend i dont know anything about lets say changelings, whilist being a scientist, but everybody yells "rajajja" the moment it takes effect in somebody, janitor runs like insane to security when injected by ling when seeing white screen even tho he has no RP reason to. I think that background should matter, I think there are situations when its securities job to get the bad guys and the miscreants and not be afraid of an admin all the time. I wouldnt be mad if they borged somebody when their actions led to someones death, hell i was incenirated and thrown away as an spy when cought "stealing" somebodies limb, but being scolded by an admin for spreading space drugs, in an empty bar, for like 10 sec, whilist havign an RP reason, doesnt feel right.
I enjoy the game, I enjoy being an antagonist and explore different ways to disrupt peoples work, because i know it gets boring if the same thing is done over and over again. I even feel fulfilled when people cooperate to catch me and they succede and rip me to shreads or have an court hearing.
I like it when there is somebody trying to break into science f.e. and you defend your station. Its a situation you cant get in a different genre and playing rounds when the antagonist is so good and quiet that everything goes "according to plan" are boring. Maybe i got the wrong impression but i took this game as the station trying withstand enemy forces whilist everybody doing its job. But nearly every RP round, as a "good worker" is doing your job for 96 minutes, then going to shuttle to find out what interesting happened this shift.
I get that non-RP servers are shit show because they lack the RP rules, but I think, that nearly everyone of my "admin talks" should have been dealt with by security, which, for me, has terribly set what to do with crime. Ive been immolated for tiniest thing, i was brigged for many minutes for trying free stirsir by teleporter, but got 30 sec for being a convinced spy and let go with all my stuff or being let as a vampire several times, cause i "didnt killed anybody". Which is ridiculous. Pretending that vampires arent dangerous, that werewolfs running thru halls are just pets and being brigged for assulting one when it approaches me is ridiculous and worse for security RP than a crazy scientist that made people see different colors.
I believe i was banned yesterday, for three days.
I guess you can say "well if you dont agree dont come to our servers", which is, i guess, valid but its not that i dont agree with the rules, its in the tracks of i dont think that spreading space drugs is inconvenience to others on a level that admin needs to jump in to save them, rather give tip to sec to make arrest.
More than an appealing the ban I would like to hear your opinions.
I was scolded for things i think were RP worthy, but on the other hand its very hard to play antagonist, because most of the games people still group jump me or doesnt listen to or talk or know exactly how to react and what to do despite RP. Which i would never report (If people do, i feel bad for how many messages you must get).
I cant really say what rules broke, i try RP and try for others to have fun and unique round.
(Besides the sexual one, i didnt realise i coudlnt call out a nurse striping down someone as her wanna have "fun" with him, that was my bad and i get that one)
I like the game, i dont like the interpretation of the rules.
"As a rule of thumb, if it's bad and takes more than 10 minutes for a normal player to fix, it is covered by this rule - dont grief ".
"We're all here to have a good time. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little to no justification is against the rules. Legitimate conflicts where people get upset do happen; however, these conflicts should escalate properly, and retribution must be proportionate. For example, this means you shouldn’t immediately escalate to murder when someone refuses to leave a certain area or give back something they stole.
"Play as a coherent, believable character that you enjoy portraying. Real life realism is not required, and you are allowed to be silly within the context of the SS13 game world. (Clowns, farting on people, people spontaneously combusting and exploding are all non-serious things but yet a vital part of the game world.) At the end of the day, it is very likely your character wants their employment with Nanotrasen to continue. As such, they should act like it. Playing as a violent or otherwise psychologically unstable character is not a valid reason to cause harm to others or damage to the station unless you are an antagonist. Only minor criminal activity is permitted."[/font]
PS: I think my name is Lvice, dont know where it is but my chars are Mac Andy Cheese and Elward Edric, Looking forward to your responds
The reaction i got:
"ZeWaka Online
Developer
Follow the template. Denied. "
(all on RP servers)
Hi, I was banned for Injecting multiple people with reinforced mutagenic field as nonantag in 80+ minutes, while being a miscreant whose goal was to make a detective agency, make cases then solve them while blaming security.
Admittedly I had prior warnings which could result in ban, but for some reason this one did it.
Exact ban:"Injecting multiple people with reinforced mutagenic field as nonantag. Multiple notes and warnings. Here's your break."
I did several minor things which were talked thru with an admin, which i tried not to repeat even when i thought they were ridiculous. But now i feel like being scolded for everything while having a RP reasons do them. And it doesnt feel good to secondguess everything you do in character.
I still think that its not good RP to pretend i dont know anything about lets say changelings, whilist being a scientist, but everybody yells "rajajja" the moment it takes effect in somebody, janitor runs like insane to security when injected by ling when seeing white screen even tho he has no RP reason to. I think that background should matter, I think there are situations when its securities job to get the bad guys and the miscreants and not be afraid of an admin all the time. I wouldnt be mad if they borged somebody when their actions led to someones death, hell i was incenirated and thrown away as an spy when cought "stealing" somebodies limb, but being scolded by an admin for spreading space drugs, in an empty bar, for like 10 sec, whilist havign an RP reason, doesnt feel right.
I enjoy the game, I enjoy being an antagonist and explore different ways to disrupt peoples work, because i know it gets boring if the same thing is done over and over again. I even feel fulfilled when people cooperate to catch me and they succede and rip me to shreads or have an court hearing.
I like it when there is somebody trying to break into science f.e. and you defend your station. Its a situation you cant get in a different genre and playing rounds when the antagonist is so good and quiet that everything goes "according to plan" are boring. Maybe i got the wrong impression but i took this game as the station trying withstand enemy forces whilist everybody doing its job. But nearly every RP round, as a "good worker" is doing your job for 96 minutes, then going to shuttle to find out what interesting happened this shift.
I get that non-RP servers are shit show because they lack the RP rules, but I think, that nearly everyone of my "admin talks" should have been dealt with by security, which, for me, has terribly set what to do with crime. Ive been immolated for tiniest thing, i was brigged for many minutes for trying free stirsir by teleporter, but got 30 sec for being a convinced spy and let go with all my stuff or being let as a vampire several times, cause i "didnt killed anybody". Which is ridiculous. Pretending that vampires arent dangerous, that werewolfs running thru halls are just pets and being brigged for assulting one when it approaches me is ridiculous and worse for security RP than a crazy scientist that made people see different colors.
I believe i was banned yesterday, for three days.
I guess you can say "well if you dont agree dont come to our servers", which is, i guess, valid but its not that i dont agree with the rules, its in the tracks of i dont think that spreading space drugs is inconvenience to others on a level that admin needs to jump in to save them, rather give tip to sec to make arrest.
More than an appealing the ban I would like to hear your opinions.
I was scolded for things i think were RP worthy, but on the other hand its very hard to play antagonist, because most of the games people still group jump me or doesnt listen to or talk or know exactly how to react and what to do despite RP. Which i would never report (If people do, i feel bad for how many messages you must get).
I cant really say what rules broke, i try RP and try for others to have fun and unique round.
(Besides the sexual one, i didnt realise i coudlnt call out a nurse striping down someone as her wanna have "fun" with him, that was my bad and i get that one)
I like the game, i dont like the interpretation of the rules.
"As a rule of thumb, if it's bad and takes more than 10 minutes for a normal player to fix, it is covered by this rule - dont grief ".
"We're all here to have a good time. Going out of your way to seriously negatively impact or end the round for someone with little to no justification is against the rules. Legitimate conflicts where people get upset do happen; however, these conflicts should escalate properly, and retribution must be proportionate. For example, this means you shouldn’t immediately escalate to murder when someone refuses to leave a certain area or give back something they stole.
"Play as a coherent, believable character that you enjoy portraying. Real life realism is not required, and you are allowed to be silly within the context of the SS13 game world. (Clowns, farting on people, people spontaneously combusting and exploding are all non-serious things but yet a vital part of the game world.) At the end of the day, it is very likely your character wants their employment with Nanotrasen to continue. As such, they should act like it. Playing as a violent or otherwise psychologically unstable character is not a valid reason to cause harm to others or damage to the station unless you are an antagonist. Only minor criminal activity is permitted."[/font]
PS: I think my name is Lvice, dont know where it is but my chars are Mac Andy Cheese and Elward Edric, Looking forward to your responds
The reaction i got:
"ZeWaka Online
Developer
Follow the template. Denied. "