something needs to be done about greytiding

[Deadvickyart]

For example, in a recent game I played the medical director found and cloned a corpse. A security guard walked in, ejected the clone early, beat the clone to death with a baton, pausing briefly to taser and cuff the MD for trying to drag him away, then proceeding to beat the naked clone to death for being 'a mindslave'.

I was there for that round.  There was a giant fucking visible mindslave module sitting on the cloning pod.

This was a pure vampire round.

The easiest solution is to have more experienced sec players get on and start de escalating everything; and if someone is living to crime, put them in the suit of shame and swirly them. They should keep security empty of non security personnel and run it strict for a bit. However, I haven't seen anything too bad, just the occasional shitter. Nothing about now seems any worse then any point before.

This would help a lot, but I just don't see it outside the RP servers. I have avoided interacting with security officers in any capacity as much as I can every round so maybe I'm missing it, but I see officers murdering valids and bragging about it on comms constantly and I literally cannot remember any time the brig has been used in the non rp servers.

Its ridiculous to say the grief problem comes from Sec. I think that attitude of being against sec is really unhealthy for the game. Of course we all saw bad security officers, but not because you saw someone do something bad that all of sec deserves to be griefed. I don't get how removing our tools would help. You gotta remember we need to stop the antags, and that stopping a ling with your bare hand is not very possible.

I play mostly on RP, and the self antagging is a problem there too. Morty is always on extended because of it and its not normal. I've heard many people say they don't enjoy playing on morty anymore because its too chaotic. I've personally had very painful rounds.

I don't know what the solution is, but I think something should be done. Being less lenient towards streamers and youtubers is a good idea, in my opinion.

Security tends to get a lot of regulars, and most of those regulars especially on goon 1 fucking suck. I don't want to name names, but there is definitely 3 or 4 people who I refuse to interact with on any level because they are validhunters of the most obnoxious variety and inveriably will disrupt your round for 15 minutes of strip-searching while they look for an excuse to muder you if they detect a hint of sass or you get in the way of them banking a confirmed kill.